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Old 03-24-2004, 10:05 AM   #1
Big Bang Hank
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Total Linux nOOb needs guidance


Hi everyone,

Im a windows user looking 2 desert the Microsoft manipulation of the home user and was wondering,

I have just installed Fedora Core 1 and all went well but im kind of stuck, everything seems way to complicated, i would like to install a media player to watch Divx and XVid encoded films, under windows its easy you just double click an .exe file and away ya go.

I guess what i would like is for someone to explain or a tutorial that will show me how to do all the basics with linux, ie install applications, set up my home network etc.

Im really excited about making the jump to light speed but it would be alot easier with guidance.......

Many thanks
 
Old 03-24-2004, 10:22 AM   #2
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www.fedoranews.org contains some useful tutorials.

Digging around in these forums will also show you a lot of answers.

www.fedoraforum.org also contains FAQ's and tutorials.

See if those get you going.
 
Old 03-24-2004, 10:43 AM   #3
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Thanks m8
 
Old 03-25-2004, 03:42 AM   #4
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try the answers section of this site too... it helped me install programs
 
Old 03-25-2004, 09:02 AM   #5
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We were all new once. Installin programs is actually much easier with Linux than with Windows. We can get them all for free

Fedora is a great distro to start with and there are many books available at Amazon, BAMM and at any local book store that deal with Fedora. I bought a $75 Red Hat 9 book for $4 on Amazon. It has helped me greatly.

To answer your question, I would download a tool to help you load programs and run them... apt-get is a great tool for this. You will use the command line (not point and click) but it isn't bad once you get use to it.

go to freshrpms.net and download the 2 files you need to run apt-get. They must be installed together for it to work. This must be done from the command line to work properly.

Here are the two files

http://ftp.freshrpms.net/pub/freshrp....1.fr.i386.rpm

http://ftp.freshrpms.net/pub/freshrp....1.fr.i386.rpm

download both of these, put them in a directory like /home/yourname

afterwards go in to console and type

su (root password) * no ( ) just type your root password

cd /home/yourname

rpm -Uvh apt* *this will install both packages at the same time.

apt-get update *this sets up apt-get with the proper list of available software

now you can get a player for divx. Mplayer is good for this so just use apt-get to go get it for you and install it. To do that type:

apt-get install mplayer*

aptget will go get the file, install it and make it ready for use.

If you go to the Fedora menu it should now be listed under Sound & Video as "movie Player" It wiull play divx, dvd, etc... you may need to change the dvd drive in it to the correct one on your system though in preferences.


good luck... IM me on Yahoo at jbabbler if you need live help..... enjoy!

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Old 03-25-2004, 10:19 AM   #6
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Hi Big Bang Hank (are you a golfer lol)

The site I found with a ton of well laid out info (esp the section "I downloaded a program...now what?) but the other sections on scripts and command prompt tricks are also excellent is:

http://linux-newbie.sunsite.dk.

HTH,
mark

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Old 03-25-2004, 10:28 AM   #7
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sorry about the typo above, I should have included the url for:

http://linux-newbie.sunsite.dk./lnag...how_do_install



mark
 
Old 03-25-2004, 12:51 PM   #8
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I have played golf before but it has no influence on my name.....lol.

thanks for the help its much appreciated, i just have one more question for now.

Is it possible to download all the updates to a folder and then update from a local source. If so how?

thanks again chaps
 
Old 03-25-2004, 01:31 PM   #9
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Download all of the updates from your mirror of choice and put them in a directory. Then, as root, issue the command rpm -Fvh *. The -F tells rpm to update rpms that are alreadly installed on your system. If an rpm in the directory is not installed it ignores it. There is one caveat, DO NOT DO THIS ON ANY KERNEL RPMS!

If there are any kernel-* rpms in the files you download do those separately. First, figure out what kernel stuff you already have installed: 'rpm -qa kernel*' . Mine shows

kernel-source-2.4.22-1.2174.nptl
kernel-smp-2.4.22-1.2174.nptl
kernel-doc-2.4.22-1.2174.nptl


So if a new kernel update comes out, say 2175. I would do an rpm -ivh on kernel-source...2175, kernel-smp...2175, and kernel-doc...2175. You do an -ivh on the kernel rpms so you can bring up your new kernel and make sure it works. If there are any issues you can always boot back into your old kernel.
 
Old 03-25-2004, 04:00 PM   #10
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I have done the updates as flyfishin suggested and also installed kernel-2.4.22-1.2174.nptl.i686 and kernel-smp-2.4.22-1.2174.nptl.i686 all has gone ok but now i obviously have three kernel listings in the bootloader, how do i remove the unneccesay ones?

I am really getting into this linux thing, cheers guys for the support
 
Old 03-25-2004, 09:29 PM   #11
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rpm -e kernelsyoudontwant

If you don't want kernel...2168(example) then rpm -e that kernel. Also, you only need kernel-smp if you have a dual processor box, sorry about not explaining that before. Make sure you keep kernel-...2174 and it's source. You don't have to keep the source but if you want to every recompile your own kernel or if some other software ever needs the source, like NVIDIA driver, then you have them.
 
Old 03-26-2004, 12:56 PM   #12
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Hi, im also trying to install apr-get but im having problems!

I downloaded the 2 files that Frank_Drebin mentioned, and tried to install them but when i try i get the error message:

Code:
[root@r0l5n8 default]# rpm -Uvh apt*
warning: apt-0.5.15cnc3-0.1.fr.i386.rpm: V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID e42d547b
error: Failed dependencies:
        libbeecrypt.so.6 is needed by apt-0.5.15cnc3-0.1.fr
Can someone please help? Much thanks!

Last edited by donbellioni; 03-26-2004 at 01:48 PM.
 
Old 03-26-2004, 03:58 PM   #13
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That error is telling you libbeecrypt.so.6 is needed by apt-0.5.15cnc3-0.1.fr. So there is some package that contains libbeecrypt.so.6. Google a little and you should be able to find what package that file is in.
 
Old 03-26-2004, 04:23 PM   #14
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Ah thanks bud, didnt know that it would be within a package, i was looking for the exact same file to download.

All working now, thanks a lot.
 
  


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