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Old 07-27-2005, 02:50 PM   #1
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min spec for fc4?


Hi

I'm running FC 4 on a compaq armada m700 (p3 700 ghz) with 168m ram.

it's a really old laptop and has been around the block a bit.

Anyhow, FC4 is fine but it runs pretty slow.
I've given up using any 'real' apps on here (Eclipse, Open office spreadsheet thing), because they're just too slow.

Is there any good tips to speeding up the system or tweeks that can improve things?

As an aside, I guess the old common wisdom was that Linux could breathe life back into older hardware that microsoft had deemed to be obselete, is mabye now not the case? FC4 is a pretty impressive piece of kit and seems to me is probably geared to running on something a bit more meaty than my cronky old laptop.

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Old 07-27-2005, 02:54 PM   #2
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Linux can breathe life into old systems, no problem. The question is just which distribution. FC4: no way. You need something 'slimmer' for older machines. Slackware comes to mind. (Gentoo as well, if you use distcc)
 
Old 07-28-2005, 06:02 AM   #3
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Cheers David

Yeah, thats what I'm beginning to realise.

I've seen Slackware and Gentoo (don't know what a distcc is) mentioned alot in the various Linux glossies so I think I'll give them a spin.

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Old 07-28-2005, 09:03 AM   #4
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distcc is the distributed c compiler... it allows you to perform compilation across multiple computers, if you have them available to you.
 
Old 07-28-2005, 09:39 AM   #5
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Depending on what you are trying to do on this computer there are many different configurations/distributions that you'll find adecuate for it:

More than the distribution itself it usually comes down to:

- How many bakground processes (daemons, servers, etc) do you really need to run.
- Is command line enough or do you need a GUI
- If you need a GUI: Choose the window manager according to your preferences and according to your computer resources.

So the basic question is: What do you want to use linux in this computer for?

Based on your specs:
- If you want it as a server (File Server, DHCP, Internet Gateway, etc) You don't really need a GUI.
- If you want it as an everyday desktop (e-mail, browsing, word processing, organizing your pictures, watching a dvd, etc) I would recommend a light distro such as http://www.puppylinux.org. Its a small download (64 MB), Runs 100% in RAM, can boot from CD, USB memory, HDD, etc and it's quite versatile and stable.
- If you want it for Development, video processing, trying the latest and greatest. Tough luck, you will have to suffer with a full blown distro like Fedora. Slowness will not be the distro's fault but your computer's.

I don't (I repeat I DON'T) recommend you to try Gentoo with those system's specs. You will grow roots. It is true, with Gentoo you will have a highly customized installation compiled for your target platform and you will learn a lot in the process. The keyword here is 'compiled'. Im my modest P4 2.8 GHz with 512 RAM it took several hours to compile the kernel and several hours to compile KDE. It took me days to have a full installation. And every time I needed to install/update an application it took a long time. So there are many instances where I would recommend and encourage using Gentoo. This is not one of those, you will spend more time compiling than actually working.

I personally use FC3 on the desktop and Puppy on a laptop booting from CD (Its a company laptop with XP so I cannot mess with it) It saves all my files and configurations to the NTFS drive with a very neat trick.

So your options:
- Keep Fedora but disable all the daemons and background processes you don't need. Install a light weight WindowManager. (Xfce, IceWM, flubox, etc)
- Use a light weight distro
- Keep Fedora 'as is' and accept that it will be slow.

With linux you have options. It can give new life to old computers but at the same time it can fully use high end Hardware for High end requirements.
 
Old 07-29-2005, 03:02 AM   #6
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thanks Raul

Thats good advice, I'll definately have a play with Puppy Linux.

I've left the PC on last night downloading Slackware from LinuxISO. From I've read it looks like a very lightweight OS and will give me the long needed push into getting to grips with Linux fundamentals. (note my other PC runs on Suse 9.1 and it sort of does everything for me).

I only really want to browse the web (via belkin router/adsl modem), get emails, play dvds/cds and play a few games on my laptop. It would be good if I can install netbeans and OOffice, and do a bit of work on there too. Sorting out Samba and CUPS is a task I must also jump 'feet first' into. Thats it really, fairly undemanding usage I'd expect, seems a shame not to use the laptop just because it's not a top spec.

Well thats my weekend free time sorted.

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Old 07-30-2005, 04:11 AM   #7
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Good bye my Fedora friends, I've switched to slackware 10.1 and with the KDE effects turned right down the system now wizzes along (all the games work, the K office suite is fine, straight on the web with Mozilla).

The slackware book is excellent incase anyone fancies trying this out.


Uses LILO though, but fine if you're a single OS machine.

K
 
Old 07-30-2005, 10:25 AM   #8
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First off: happy birthday, caulfiek.

Secondly: I use LILO on my laptop to quadruple boot (with 5 boot options):
  • Gentoo - 2.6.12
  • Gentoo - 2.6.11
  • Windows XP
  • Memtest86+
  • Dell Diagnostics Partition

So it is possible. I've personally never used Grub.
 
Old 07-30-2005, 11:53 AM   #9
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Hey! I'm gladd that you got a distro adecuate to your needs.

Slackware is sure in my list of distros to try. (I've tried derivatives and they are quite fine)

Happy birthday.

Regarding the boot manager. just as a FYI...

You can use whatever boot manager you choose. Slackware may come with lilo, but if you prefer grub for whatever reason, you could just install grub and create a menu.lst modeled after your LILO configuration file.
 
  


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