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Old 05-31-2005, 06:41 PM   #1
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Linux super noob questions(very urgent)


Need a lot of help, urgent. Gonna give a demo with Fedora 3 tomorrow noon(last min decision by my boss, doesn;'t matter that I have no idea how to use it). Downloading and installing the thing was simple enough. After that was a disaster. I tried to install some drivers but have absolutely no idea how to do it. I see some tar.gz, tar.bz2, src.rpm, .rpm, make .in or something like that and I have no idea how to use them so right now I still have no sound(realtek) and my monitor resolution(Intel extreme graphics chipset I think) kinda sux(even if I can adjust it I dun know how to)

More importantly i need to be able to play MP3s and video files by tomorrow afternoon. I downloaded and installed Realplayer but it doesnt play the files(either that or I didn't install the thing properly). XMMS doesn't seem to work either. Had some message talking about Redhat having some rights issue with Mpeg.

Tried reading up but most of the stuff I found are too hard to understand or too detailed, dun have time to read them. Gonna put an alnighter for some other projects too. Can someone please help. First off I need some simple idiot proof instructions on how to install files and applications. Secondly I need an application that will allow me to play mp3s and media files. Someone please point me to the right direction or give me the right instructions. Thanks in Advance.
 
Old 05-31-2005, 08:40 PM   #2
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With due respect, you have probably bitten off more than you can chew to come to grips with all of this during one all-nighter.

That said, if your hardware wasn't detected perfectly during the install then you may wish to try another distro for the moment. A 'live' distro, such as Knoppix, may be your best bet. Reconfiguring X and installing new drivers is not something that's best done in a rush, when you perhaps have little or no experience with *nix.
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More importantly i need to be able to play MP3s and video files by tomorrow afternoon
What video format ? Realtime ? Mpeg ? Xine (www.xine.org will play mp3, avi, mov, mpeg and wmv by default, and most other formats with the appropriate codecs/plugins. For Realtime, see http://xinehq.de/index.php/faq#AEN327. Xmms will play mp3's and audio cd's, though if you have Xine it won't be necessary. To install Xine, follow the instructions on the Download page above, for binary RH packages. Alternatively, Knoppix almost certainly has either Xine or MPlayer included, as part of the cd.

Cheers,

mj

PS. It is best not to label your thread as 'very urgent'. It will certainly not aid in having your query answered any more quickly, and oftentimes will result in the reverse occuring.

Last edited by mjrich; 05-31-2005 at 08:56 PM.
 
Old 05-31-2005, 11:49 PM   #3
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Fedora 3 is not noob-friendly at all.
There are a dozen of way more friendlier distros to test-drive.
 
Old 06-01-2005, 12:08 AM   #4
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Quote:
Originally posted by henryg
Fedora 3 is not noob-friendly at all.
There are a dozen of way more friendlier distros to test-drive.
You need to justify your arguments because we ned to know how you have come to those conclusions.

Anyway lolz to play mp3 and other multimedia stuff, add the line below to your /etc/yum.conf,
Code:
[dag]
name=Dag RPM Repository for Fedora Core
baseurl=http://apt.sw.be/fedora/$releasever/en/$basearch/dag 
gpgcheck=1 
enabled=1
Once thats done, do as root,
and then
Code:
#yum install xmms-mp3

Last edited by reddazz; 06-01-2005 at 12:11 AM.
 
Old 06-01-2005, 12:32 AM   #5
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Originally posted by reddazz
You need to justify your arguments
for what?? to start a huge discussion about wether or not fedora is noob-friendly and take the thread 90 degrees off course?? it's the guy's opinion, he doesn't need to justify anything... as if!!!

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because we ned to know how you have come to those conclusions
we do?? please speak for yourself... i for one can understand his point without needing him to elaborate any further... and the bottom line is pretty much not even open to debate: "There are a dozen of way more friendlier distros to test-drive."

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Anyway lolz to play mp3 and other multimedia stuff, add the line below to your /etc/yum.conf,
Code:
[dag]
name=Dag RPM Repository for Fedora Core
baseurl=http://apt.sw.be/fedora/$releasever/en/$basearch/dag 
gpgcheck=1 
enabled=1
Once thats done, do as root,
and then
Code:
#yum install xmms-mp3
i can only imagine what that would have looked like to me when i was starting-out and didn't even know what an RPM was... anyways, IMHO, lolz, you should try mandriva or something like that... at least by battling it out in the GUI control center you might have some chance of success before your deadline... you can always come back to fedora later...

ftp://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/Ma...iso/10.2/i586/


Last edited by win32sux; 06-01-2005 at 12:35 AM.
 
Old 06-01-2005, 12:52 AM   #6
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win32sux I don't see why you had to respond to my post if you didn't have anything useful to say apart from slag me off. I have noticed this kind of behaviour in some of your posts in other threads and frankly its not acceptable. If you have any criticisms about another members posts I am sure there are better ways to put them across instead of trying to make others appear less knowledgeable than yourself. My solution above works and if the person who requires assistance does not understand it I am sure that they can ask and I can explain further.

Last edited by reddazz; 06-01-2005 at 12:58 AM.
 
Old 06-01-2005, 12:53 AM   #7
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Quote:
Originally posted by reddazz
win32sux I don't see why you had to respond to my post if you didn't have anything useful to say apart from slag me off. I have noticed this kind of behavious in some of your posts in other threads and frankly its not acceptable. If you have any criticisms about another members posts I am sure there are better ways to put them across instead of trying to make others appear less knowledgeable than yourself. My solution above works and if the person who requires assistance does not understand my it I am sure that they can ask and I can explain further.
mandriva is my distro of choice?? LOL!!!

BTW, the same can be said of you and these "justification" requests...


Last edited by win32sux; 06-01-2005 at 12:55 AM.
 
Old 06-01-2005, 01:06 AM   #8
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Originally posted by win32sux
mandriva is my distro of choice?? LOL!!!

BTW, the same can be said of you and these "justification" requests...
I disagree with that. The reason why I said that the person has to justify their stance is so that the member that he is posting to, understands why he believes Fedora is not newbie friendly and what alternatives are available. You may know all this because you have been using Linux for a while, but others may not.
 
Old 06-01-2005, 01:24 AM   #9
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Originally posted by reddazz
The reason why I said that the person has to justify their stance is so that the member that he is posting to, understands why he believes Fedora is not newbie friendly and what alternatives are available.
oh please, i'm pretty sure i know why you wanted him to elaborate - so that you could COUNTER with a "i disagree because my experience has been blah blah blah" (like you do on other threads)... but i'll give you the benefit of the doubt this time... it's all good...

anyways, back to the topic: my point is that the OP has a DEADLINE of about 24 hours, so right now isn't the time for the "let me explain to you why fedora is not so newbie-friendly" kinda posts... he needs to have a distro up and running to show his boss tomorrow, that's the main issue at hand... and that's the reason i posted the mandriva links - because he stands a far better chance of meeting his deadline by using his intuition in the mandrake control center even if he currently doesn't have any linux knowledge... i'm all for educating users and all of that, but the OP made it pretty clear that right now his priority is to get something up and running as quickly as possible...
 
Old 06-01-2005, 01:35 AM   #10
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of course if it was his boss that chose the fedora distro then lolz might not even be able to use any other distro... having said that, i think what mjrich said is very likely: lolz probably bit-off more than he could chew... this just isn't the sorta thing a fresh from windows newbie pulls-off with a one-nighter... i mean, it's possible, but it's not very probable...

lolz, is there any way that you can get your boss to extend the deadline a little??
 
Old 06-01-2005, 01:40 AM   #11
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Quote:
Originally posted by win32sux
oh please, i'm pretty sure i know why you wanted him to elaborate - so that you could COUNTER with a "i disagree because my experience has been blah blah blah" (like you do on other threads)... but i'll give you the benefit of the doubt this time... it's all good...

anyways, back to the topic: my point is that the OP has a DEADLINE of about 24 hours, so right now isn't the time for the "let me explain to you why fedora is not so newbie-friendly" kinda posts... he needs to have a distro up and running to show his boss tomorrow, that's the main issue at hand... and that's the reason i posted the mandriva links - because he stands a far better chance of meeting his deadline by using his intuition in the mandrake control center even if he currently doesn't have any linux knowledge... i'm all for educating users and all of that, but the OP made it pretty clear that right now his priority is to get something up and running as quickly as possible...
I feel that its inappropriate to continue this discussion because its obviously not helping the person who started the thread. You can reach any conclusions you like about my initial post or intentions. I may deem them to be inaccurate but you are entitled to your own views and opinions which I respect.

I do agree with you about meeting the deadline, but in my opinion installing Mandrake is probably going to take a lot more time than installing the xmms-mp3 package (though I can now see why you suggested it). Anyway this up to whoever started the thread to decide.

edit:
Well, yeah his boss chose the distro so it seems like he has no choice with regards to the disro at the moment.

Last edited by reddazz; 06-01-2005 at 01:56 AM.
 
Old 06-01-2005, 01:56 AM   #12
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Originally posted by reddazz
I feel that its inappropriate to continue this discussion because its obviously not helping the person who started the thread.
agreed...

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in my opinion installing Mandrake is probably going to take a lot more time than installing the xmms-mp3 package (though I can now see why you suggested it)
that's true, but keep in mind that the mp3 thing wasn't the only issue i was considering when i made the suggestion... i was also thinking about the the sound card, the video resolution, the video (media) playback, etc:
Quote:
Originally posted by lolz
I still have no sound(realtek) and my monitor resolution(Intel extreme graphics chipset I think) kinda sux(even if I can adjust it I dun know how to) More importantly i need to be able to play MP3s and video files by tomorrow afternoon.
but either way, it looks like mandriva might not even be an option for him...

i think if he got his deadline extended by a couple days he might be able to get his fedora core into shape with your help and stuff... but then again, he might also break-through and meet the current deadline somehow... who knows... i do wonder why he hasn't posted anymore... i would imagine him asking a zillion questions and stuff - i know i would if i was under that kinda pressure under those circumstances...
 
Old 06-01-2005, 03:10 AM   #13
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Let me recommend www.fedorafaq.org to you.

How to install software:
http://www.fedorafaq.org/#installsoftware

How to get mp3:
http://www.fedorafaq.org/#xmms-mp3

To play movies, you'll need xine. Totem is a good GUI frontend for it.
"yum install totem xine" should do it.

To get DVD playback you need "libdvdcss."
To get codecs for common formats such as Windows Media, Quicktime, etc, you need a package called w32codec or something like that (don't remember the exact name).
 
Old 06-01-2005, 04:12 AM   #14
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Old 06-01-2005, 04:16 AM   #15
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Re: Gonna give a demo ?

Quote:
Originally posted by ray alex
Are you gonna give a demo about Fedora 3 ? and u cant even install the mp3 libs?
I mean it is just a simple rpm from somewhere?

Why did you come up with that ide to give a demo about it in that case?

If you dont know more than that? download Knoppix and run that live cd instead.
His boss asked him to as the first post explains.
 
  


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