Please bear with me. I have been searching this both here and on Google, with no clear answer yet.

I've been thinking about trying Fedora 12 or 13, then possibly migrating to it. Before I waste my time, though, I really want to know: is KDE 3.5.10 available on Fedora 12? Will it be available on Fedora 13? Can someone please point me to a page that will demonstrate it?

For example, this page demonstrates KDE 3.5.10 on Kubuntu, and this page demonstrates KDE 3.5.10 on Slackware (besides many easy hits on Google). Can someone point me to something similar for Fedora?

TIA

See the following link.
That is the official fedora site saying a big NO !
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/K...9_and_later.3F

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if you MUST use the old kde 3 then install cent 5.4

ps there is a repo for kde 4 on Centos but 3 is default


however the current kde 4 is nice - give it a try

Well, that's a shame. It seemed to be a pretty good OS.

I have finally realized that Linux gives us a lot of freedom, but is pretty lacking in giving us CHOICE. There is very little choice. The developers, holders of the key to all hope of viability, make their own choice and will offer it as the only one.

Many less than popular window managers such as IceWM, FVWM and E! are provided as separate and complete packages, why not KDE 3.x? Because there is a collective effort to kill it, obviously. Choice is not always welcome in the realms of free software. There is a very clear attempt to strongarm users of KDE 3.5 into accepting KDE 4. The Fedora team's argumentation is rather poor:

Uuuh... Hello?! Who says that BOTH KDE 3 and KDE 4 have to be present? Who came up with this imposition that KDE 4 has to be installed at all times? KDE 3.x was the only choice for a remarkably long time. How does that suddenly become not possible anymore?

I don't care how "good" KDE 4 may seem to some. My problem is not just stability. It's mostly the design choices. I don't want that pile of feces trying to imitate Apple's UI paradigms. I do not drink that kool aid. I don't think it's beautiful. I don't think it's user-friendly. I don't think it's cool, hip, nice, awesome or any other positive adjective you may come up with to describe it. I loathe it.

But thanks for your reply. It was informative.

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You're welcome

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hello lucmove,

been at the same Xroad a few months ago when openSUSE 10.3 was desupported; had been using it as my primary OS on my main machine for the three yrs of its availability & got so happy w/ the ability to set up my desktop w/ most if not all of its features by simply copying a few subdirectories from the home directory, either on different HW (ThinkPad R50p, T61, DeLL Inspiron 11z) or Linux Flavour (CentOS 4.x & 5.x) that i simply didn't want to give it up, yet. the beatified uselessness & self-indulgence of KDE4 were of course not helping >:)
after some googling i came across this thread ( http://forums.opensuse.org/new-user-...se-11-2-a.html ) on the openSUSE forums. i tried it w/ AMD64 and was quite happy w/ the outcome.
i know it isn't exactly an answer to your question as you are using fedora / RedHat, but i myself moved to SuSE after RH dropped its consumer / free SW into the fedora pit. never looked back ¦-)
up to you to decide whether running KDE 3.5.10 for another 2+ yrs is worth it.

@lucmove, I sympathize with you.

Considering "forcing" people into KDE 4, this is done because it is much easier to support only one version of software, what ever it is. KDE 3.x is EOl because Qt3 is EOL for 3 years now. There is "Trinity" project trying to keep it alive, but they will face a great many number of problems. If you want progress, there is always the price. If you had problems with KDE 3.x, (almost) NO ONE would be interested to fix it.

There is Arch disto for those who wish to build their on systems, But I think they also use KDE 4.

If you like KDE 3.x so much, but want supported distro, I have CentOS 5 repository with large number of Desktop apps, like Skype 2.1.0.81beta, Amarok 1.4.10, Firefox 3.6.3 etc. I copied or recompiled everything I needed for comfortable use (I use Gnome mostly with several KDE app's). Just take a look at my signature.

But do not expect new versions of apps, CentOS 5 is old and unable to recompile many new packages. CentOs 6 comes out with KDE 4 also, so....

I guess it didn't bother you that SuSe dropped into the M$ pit.

I have both KDE3 and KDE4 available on this system, though, honestly, it's been a long time since I tried to start KDE3 and it is possible that some update along the way has broken it.

I'm using Mandriva, which started life as a fork of redhat and still is architecturally very similar to Fedora (I also run Fedora on some embedded target environments).

IIRC, with the Mandriva 2009 update, KDE4 became the default. However, there was an option to retain KDE3 and when I did that update, I used that option and continued to run KDE3 for awhile. I only moved to KDE4 with KDE4.3 because, prior to that time, I considered it to be too incomplete.

So, you might try obtaining Mandriva 2008. Install that, then upgrade to 2009, while choosing to keep KDE 3.5.10. I'm not sure how that will work when you try to upgrade beyond that point, but it DOES work at that point.

I also have to say that the code cleanup in KDE4 has been very helpful. KDE3.5.10 had memory leaks and I had to restart it every couple of days because it would deteriorate. KDE4 is much better in that regard, and you can in fact make it look like KDE3.

Hi! There are several distributions for which KDE3 is still available. First of all it's OpenSUSE where KDE3 is made the most smooth way. Although it is not supported any longer, it was packaged by professional Novell maintainers, includes SUSE integration, optional SUSE menu, SUSE branding, access to SUSE documentation through KDE3 helping system and so on. It is not a 'hacked' KDE3 but the same one which was earlier available as part of the official distribution. It is available for both 32-bit and 64-bit architectures in a form of KDE3 repository and you can install it along KDE4 and even KDE2 (which is also available in a hobby repository for OpenSUSE).

Another distribution for which KDE3 is available is an rpm-based Alt Linux. A KDE3-based remix you can download here: http://fly.osdn.org.ua/~drool/iso/ Unlike CentOS and Debian it includes the most modern software.

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