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02-01-2005, 09:12 AM
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Registered: Feb 2004
Distribution: Fedora Core 3
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If i install Fedora Core 2, can i just update to Core 3 from internet?
Hmm, used 3 cd's in past for core 1, used 4 for core 2,...getting tired of using so many cd's for updates...
If i install Fedora Core 2, can i just update to Core 3 from internet through that updater thing? Will it be the same as if i installed Core 3 from cd or will i be missing packages and stuff?
Also for sake of trying out suse, cause i hear it has good hardware detection, is their anyway to download the distro to like somewhere on my hd and run installer from floppy?
Last edited by FocusedWolf; 02-01-2005 at 09:13 AM.
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02-01-2005, 11:56 AM
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LQ Guru
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Virginia, USA
Distribution: Debian 12
Posts: 8,362
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"If i install Fedora Core 2, can i just update to Core 3 from internet through that updater thing? Will it be the same as if i installed Core 3 from cd or will i be missing packages and stuff?"
I updated from SuSE 8.0 to 8.1 by downloading and upgrading packages. This turned out to be far more work than upgrading using the CDs. I highly recommend using CD upgrades over download upgrades.
Also it is better to install the new Linux on a separate partition and dual boot until the new version is stable. When you have problems with upgrading in place you end up with no working system. When you have problems the new version in a dual boot system there is no time pressure to fix the problems.
Here is where I buy my CDs.
http://www.linuxcd.org/
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Steve Stites
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02-03-2005, 09:15 AM
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Registered: Apr 2003
Distribution: Red Hat + Fedora
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You can do an online upgrade with e.g. Yum or Apt-RPM, e.g. hints on doing it are here:
http://linux.duke.edu/~skvidal/misc/...e-with-yum.txt
With a bit of web searching, you might find other documents. If you run into problems, you're on your own. The only supported upgrade method is using the official installation media and the Anaconda installer. The rationale is, that there are post-installation configuration and migration steps which you may be missing if you do an online update with Yum. Also, the new Fedora Core installation discs would start a new kernel including all features you may need prior to first reboot.
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02-03-2005, 09:39 AM
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Registered: Feb 2004
Distribution: Fedora Core 3
Posts: 43
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Ok 4 more cds will be sacrificed to the hell fire to bring me core3
Hmm maybe three, some reason i never needed the 4th cd lol
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02-03-2005, 01:57 PM
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Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Sofia, Bulgaria
Distribution: Fedora Core 4 Rawhide
Posts: 431
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what's the forth CD about anyway?
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02-03-2005, 02:10 PM
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Registered: Apr 2003
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The fourth CD of FC3 contains 447 packages, not limited to 169 packages for software development and numerous other packages which cannot be summed up easily. Depending on what you install, you may need it.
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02-03-2005, 02:27 PM
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Registered: Feb 2004
Distribution: Fedora Core 3
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I still think it'd be more leet if their was a linux installer that you ran from a floppy and it just downloaded all the packages you needed from some mirror that holds updates.
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02-03-2005, 02:49 PM
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Registered: Apr 2003
Distribution: Red Hat + Fedora
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Have you ever done floppy based network installs with Red Hat Linux before? Fedora Core's boot images are just a few Megabytes (5-6).
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02-07-2005, 11:29 AM
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Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Rochester, NY
Distribution: Fedora Core III
Posts: 46
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One more thing to watch out for if you do update i did this on my desktop and all updates still pointed to FC2 Not FC3
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02-07-2005, 11:41 AM
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Registered: Apr 2003
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With yum or up2date?
With Yum that cannot happen unless you configured FC2 repositories manually. In yum.conf, instead of a hardcoded distribution version a macro $releasever is used and is determined automatically by examining the fedora-release package. After an upgrade to FC3, all repositories which use $releasever instead of a harcoded version would automatically switch to FC3.
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02-07-2005, 01:53 PM
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Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Sofia, Bulgaria
Distribution: Fedora Core 4 Rawhide
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what's the meaning of hardcoded? briefly
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02-07-2005, 02:03 PM
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Registered: Apr 2003
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It's jargon and means to not use a variable, but enter a constant value, which would only change if you edited it again.
Here it means to insert a specific Fedora Core version number instead of the macros supported by Yum.
Example (notice the $release and $basearch variables):
wrong:
Code:
[base]
name=Fedora Core 3 - i386 - Base
baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/3/i386/os/
enabled=1
gpgcheck=1
Right:
Code:
[base]
name=Fedora Core $releasever - $basearch - Base
baseurl=http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/$releasever/$basearch/os/
enabled=1
gpgcheck=1
The $releasever macro expands to the version of Fedora Core you have installed. For Fedora Core 3 it expands to '3'. The $basearch macro expands to your hardware base architecture.
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