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Old 11-21-2006, 11:49 PM   #1
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Cool Gotchas & things to watch out for going FC3 -> FC6??


Hi guys

I'm upgrading to FC6 in a few days via a format of my entire system & installing FC6. I've been using FC3 quite happily for a long time. I want to dual-boot with XP.

I'm looking to try and avoid RPM as much as possible, and avoid Livna as well for my Nvidia driver (since I want to configure & compile my own kernel, I'm guessing I won't find a Nvidia driver package that will match it at Livna)

But it seems there are some issues with the above and other gotchas?

My questions:
1. Is it stupid to try and avoid packages (RPMs) with FC6?

I detest RPM since I've had incredible amounts of problems with it in the past, horrible circular dependencies, etc. Is it somehow more mature in FC6? Can't see how... but it does seem to be a cornerstone of using FC6.

2. I don't want to use YUM

I'm not on an unlimited bandwidth connection, and it seems YUM would download huge amounts of data in the form of packages etc. that I -already- have in my package library locally, in tarball form (mostly). Is not using YUM (cause you can't afford it, bandwidth wise, and -already- HAVE the packages you want as tar.gz's and tar.bz's) a stupid approach as well? Or are there people that avoid it too, for the same reasons I would like to live without it?

3. GCC 4.1

How severe are the problems that I see posted about this not accepting certain C++ syntax that was valid (or went by with a warning) in 3.4? I've read the changelogs and it seems it offers considerable improvements over 3.4, but if this is at the cost of not being able to compile your favourite C++ programs that worked just fine under FC3? (I know about the compatibility packages for it)

I've read several reviews about FC6 and most people seem highly satisfied - are there any specific gotchas or obvious issues you know of for a newbie (like me) going from FC3 to FC6? Anybody in here that went this route as well in the past? Tips or experiences?

Fanx!
 
Old 11-22-2006, 08:17 PM   #2
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I'm not sure about the GCC issues you mention. I guess you can probably install gcc 3.4 as well.

As for RPM / package management, My beliefs are that you should always stick to using the package manager when possible. This makes it easier to maintain your system, since everything is installed in the "correct" location. Also, the RPM database knows about programs that have been installed. It is most frustrating when you try to install a package that has dependency X, but you already installed X from source so RPM doesn't know it exists. Using the package manager makes it easier to uninstall programs as well.

I guess it is possible to not use RPM / YUM at all - but I don't know how easy it will be.

You shouldn't have any major issues going from FC3 - FC6, particularly as you are doing reinstall rather than an upgrade.

I hope this helps
--Ian
 
Old 12-10-2006, 03:44 PM   #3
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Thumbs down Dualboot WinXP & Linux. Don't place both on the same drive.

Don't dualboot on the same drive. What happened to me was the WinXP partition went out completely one day and there's no turning back, now all I have is the Linux partition on that old drive. I just can't access Windows, but WinXP Home is still on my GRUB menu. I have a dell with a new HDD with WinXP Pro installed. I just use the Startup Menu when WinXP boots up to get to my good old Linux drive in my Dell computer. But sometimes I'd have to boot 2-3 times for Linux to work, no thanks to WinXP's corrupted files perhaps?

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I used to have a customized system with WinXP Home & Linux FC3 dualboot on same HDD.

Bryan
 
Old 12-10-2006, 03:45 PM   #4
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sorry repeated some stuff from previous post.

Bryan
 
Old 12-10-2006, 07:49 PM   #5
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trien: that issue can be fixed quite easily. I can't remember how to fix it right now, but search the forums for reinstalling grub, and installing Windows after Linux.

--Ian
 
Old 12-10-2006, 09:16 PM   #6
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ok, I'll answer your questions.
1. Yes, its stupid
2. That's stupid too
3.Gcc 4.1 works great, but if you need to compile with 3.2, you can install the compat packages via yum, of course.
 
  


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