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Old 11-17-2004, 11:27 PM   #1
wiseNoob
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gnome 2.8 desktop with limited interactivity


Just installed FC3 and after a few days of using it and applying yum updates, it stopped showing my background image and all of the icons that were there before. the last update I installed was the most recent gaim update (yesterday or so) - this was done using yum update. did not specify anything specific.

Also, ever since this happened, I cannot shutdown from gui, only shutdown -h now.

Anybody have any ideas?

edit:
there is no interactivity with the desktop itself, only windows that are open. no right-click or any other clicking... the panel is fine, although shutdown is a problem as stated above. individual software works as it should.

Last edited by wiseNoob; 11-17-2004 at 11:29 PM.
 
Old 11-18-2004, 12:11 AM   #2
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If I were you I would just remove everything in that profile and start fresh. After that you can log in as root on the command line to remove that user (1st you need to copy any important files you have saved to a safe place). The command should be /usr/sbin/userdel <username> then delete the folder in the home directory. then use the command /usr/sbin/useradd <username> . I had to do this when I first logged in because something happened and I was getting similar problems as yours. Sorry it's not a great answer, but it's the one I got.
 
Old 11-18-2004, 06:13 AM   #3
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Thanks Benji, I will try that..

Only one question then: will I be able to create the same user again without losing the ability to use the files I created as that user? I only have one user, and all of the files in my home dir are associated with that one.
 
Old 11-18-2004, 06:39 AM   #4
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Before you go on deleting anything....

create a new user
login as that user and see if the problem continues

If so then you have a bigger problem than just that local users's profile so make sure before you go deleting anything.
 
Old 11-18-2004, 08:25 AM   #5
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First follow seabass's instructions. I actually meant to suggest that first, but forgot.

Before you delete anything you need to copy important files to a safe spot. Music files, movie files, Open office files, etc. If you go through with the deleting proccess then you will basically loose settings you have changed with that profile. Desktop icons will be in their default location, files will open with their default program (if you've changed that)
 
Old 11-18-2004, 09:32 PM   #6
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thankfully, I store all of my data on a second hdd.

It still happened when I created a new user and then logged in. Its got to be gnome: KDE works (seemingly) fine.

on to deleting users... wish me luck
 
Old 11-19-2004, 05:42 AM   #7
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well that didn't work. The way I see it, I have two choices:

1. figure out how to reinstall gnome, if there is such an animal,
2. reinstall the OS from scratch

*I am left wondering whether the fact that I upgraded from FC2 to FC3 had something to do with this...

any pointers on reinstalling gnome?
 
Old 11-19-2004, 06:54 AM   #8
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decided to yum remove gnome - now it isn't showing up on list to X into gnome - only default, failsafe, and KDE.

yum (re)installed:
gnome-desktop.i386
nautilus

please forgive my noobness.

I am assuming I will have to add gnome to a list somewhere to enable it. "How" is the problem.
 
Old 11-19-2004, 10:30 AM   #9
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I don't know what all you have uninstalled on your computer but I listed out every rpm with the word gnome in it. I'm not sure but if I where you I would "yum install " every one of those. Also you should "yum install gdm". That might add it back to the list. You might want to use the command "rpm -qa |grep gnome" to see what you have installed. Also you might want to see what is in the file /etc/sysconfig/desktop. When I view the contents of that file I saw DESKTOP="GNOME" I'm not positive what that file controls, though.


[root@fedora benji]# rpm -qa |grep gnome
gnome-spell-1.0.5-6
openssh-askpass-gnome-3.9p1-7
libgnomecups-0.1.12-5
gnome-vfs2-smb-2.8.2-8
libgail-gnome-1.1.0-1
gnome-session-2.8.0-4
gnome-vfs2-devel-2.8.2-8
libgnomecanvas-devel-2.8.0-1
libgnomecanvas-2.8.0-1
gnome-python2-canvas-2.6.0-3
gnome-desktop-2.8.0-3
gnome-panel-2.8.1-3
gnomemeeting-1.0.2-8
gnome-games-2.8.0-4
gnome-keyring-manager-0.0.3-1
libgnomeui-devel-2.8.0-1
gnome-keyring-0.4.0-1
gnome-python2-2.6.0-3
gnome-icon-theme-2.8.0-1
up2date-gnome-4.3.47-5
libgnomeprintui22-2.8.0-1
gnome-audio-2.0.0-1
gnome-utils-2.8.0-5
gnome-panel-devel-2.8.1-3
gnome-desktop-devel-2.8.0-3
ethereal-gnome-0.10.6-3
gnome-terminal-2.7.3-1
gnome-vfs2-2.8.2-8
gnome-python2-bonobo-2.6.0-3
libgnomeprint22-2.8.0-2
gdk-pixbuf-gnome-0.22.0-15.0
gnome-print-0.37-10
gnome-speech-0.3.5-4
gnome-kerberos-0.3.3-1
gnome-system-monitor-2.7.0-2
gnome-applets-2.8.0-5
NetworkManager-gnome-0.3.1-3
libgnome-devel-2.8.0-2
gnome-pilot-devel-2.0.12-4
gnome-nettool-0.99.3-2
gnome-media-2.8.0-3.FC3.1
gnome-mime-data-2.4.1-5
libgnome-2.8.0-2
gnome-python2-gtkhtml2-2.6.0-3
gnome-pilot-2.0.12-4
gnome-libs-1.4.1.2.90-44
gnome-themes-2.8.0-1
gnome-netstatus-2.8.0-3
libgnomeui-2.8.0-1
libgnomeprint15-0.37-10
gnome-user-docs-2.8.0.1-1
gnome-mag-0.11.7-1
gnome-volume-manager-1.1.0-5
 
Old 11-19-2004, 02:25 PM   #10
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thanks... I will try it when I get home from work. Looks like I screwed this one...

live and learn.
 
Old 11-19-2004, 02:28 PM   #11
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Quote:
live and learn.
That's the way I learned to do it.
 
Old 11-26-2004, 04:35 AM   #12
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I' ve got the same problem - new FC 3 - and after updates this... limited interactivity I checked this and it is not just local users's profile, i thought its because of my experiments (some strange software) and I couldn't fix it so i just give up, then reinstalled FC3, after reinstall i made only this activities: installed apt-get, then Synaptic, apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, then restart X-windows and gnome has again this limited interactivity maybe anybody knows how to cope with this, and not by reinstaling fc3 every day or not just avoiding updating system...

(sorry for my poor english)
 
Old 11-26-2004, 07:28 AM   #13
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I have yet to see a solution. I reinstalled also, but that cannot be the only workaround. Is your KDE working ok? Mine was.

1. did you upgrade from FC2 --> FC3?
2. did you use any of the .repo files from here: http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=26562

My first Yum update included the repo from livna. My second did not, and seems to have updated quite a bit on the fresh install. It looks like a fresh install defaults to SELinux, where it did not on the upgrade. Also, gpg keys were installed after the fresh FC3 install. Its been about three days.

Unfortunately, I may have to wait to run this distro until further notice. Maybe Ubuntu is the way to go. I am only using this for a desktop/samba server, so it may not be necessary for FC at all. I hate to admit defeat...
 
Old 11-26-2004, 09:36 AM   #14
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KDE is working ok, it is a fresh FC3, i have no upgrade from FC2, apt-get update used this servers:
http://newrpms.sunsite.dk redhat
http://ayo.freshrpms.net fedora/
http://apt.sw.be fedora/
http://apt.sw.be dries/f

and I have SELinux installed by default,
all in all i just want my icons back ! in case of finding solution I will write it down here
 
Old 11-26-2004, 11:42 AM   #15
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Do you have SELinux running right now? I don't know what all SELinux would cover but if it is running you might try to disable it, reboot and then go into GNOME. It's a longshot, but who knows.
 
  


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