Fedora Core 4 hang??
 

Hello All!

I am pulling what's left of my hair out trying to get FC4 installed on my system.

I loaded a clean network install of FC4 x86_64 and everything went well. I use KDE but the first time I tried to boot I booted to Gnome, before I could logout to start in KDE the system locked up tight. I couldn't do anything so I hit the old Microsoft (reset) button on my PC and tried restarting with KDE, same result. I rebooted a third time and the system locked up when loading the HAL. I have never run into an issue like this with Fedora before, there doesn't seem to be any consistent place that the system hangs. Has anyone had this issue and gotten past it? Any and all ideas are welcome.

My 2 year old homebuilt system:

AMD 64 3000+
Gigabyte K8N-Pro MOBO
1 gig of DDR400
NVIDIA Nforce Chipset
Onboard AC97 Audio
Additional VIA USB card in slot
ATI TV Wonder Card
ITE8212 SATA controller onboard (FC4 install actually saw this with the drives attached, FC3 did not)
NVIDIA GeForce 5200 128DDR Video
1394 on board
AT PRO III Memory card reader (attached to the VIA USB Card)

Also, this exact configuration worked fine in FC 3 x86_64.


Thanks,

Sliceman

Does the system lock up, or does it lock up tight? If the desktop just freezes, then it's probably a software bug, but if the whole system just jams at any point for no reason, you may be having power problems. Do you know if your computer uses APM or ACPI?, or what one of these your kernel is configured to use?

If this is a brand new install, then probably you don't. See if you can find the kernel options you need to pass to maybe disable these things. "noapci" is the argument I would use, but yours may differ.

mine freezed too
 

Hi,

I had the same experience.
My fedora core 4 freezed suddenly, and I don't know the reason.
Had been 3 times.

The first time when I was using Thunderbird after about 15 minutes.
Then the second time also when I was using Thunderbird after about 15 minutes.
But I couldn't find any threads about freezed Thunderbird in Google.

Then I thought the ACPI and the cpuspeed were the reason as some people had.
I then disable ACPI by adding acpi=off in the kernel parameter; cpuspeed was also disabled.
Then this time it freezed after about 6 hours while being idle.

In all situation I was opening Eclipse, Firefox and Thunderbird at the same time.
Would that be the reason? But they were ok in Fedora Core 3 and my ram is 512 mb.

Does anybody have a clue?
Thanks.

- Fresh install of FC4
- IBM Thinkpad T23, Intel Pentium III Mobile 1Ghz, 512MB ram

nb. have feeling the Eclipse was the culprit (feeling is just feeling)

Mikezilla,

I downloaded the iso's using bit torrent and tried installing from disk, just in some wierd case there was an issue with the network install. That turned out to not be the case and I still had the same issue.

I had tried telnet - ing in to see if it was just X that was hung but all indications were that the box was totally stuck hard.

I passed the no acpi to the kernel using the grub command line at boot up and that worked out just great. Thanks for your help!

Sliceman

following my previous post,

as a try i had been using eclipse 3.0 instead of fc4's eclipse 3.1
but a hang still occured, this time after about 12 hours during trial to keep my fc4 on for a day - it never happened in fc3
still hoping somebody could point on something

fedora4 test 1 and 2 did not work on my AMD system

I have had this problem too, with Fedora Core 4. It freezes up without any apparent reason within hours of booting up.

1. Has happened while running various, apparently unrelated applications like Nautilus, Firfox, Eclipse and Evolution (over Gnome). These were not always running simulataneously.
2 Leaving the system in a hung state overnight hoping it was just some deadlock that would free itself was wishful thinking.
3. Applying the latest updates corrected some other minor issues I noticed but not this one.
4. The only way to recover is to do a hard boot.

The system is a year old Compaq R3000 laptop (fairly new & standard hardware) that dual boots with Windows and Linux. Windows runs just fine and I have been reduced to using that over Linux now! :(

Seems like this is a recurring problem for quite a few people. Has anyone seen a bug logged with the folks at Fedora for this?

In my case it hangs after starting Eclipse (the FC4 build), immediately after Eclipse displays its Welcome screen.

This is 100% reproducible. It is a full system hang, not just X.

Compaq AP400, Matrox Millenium G200, FC4.

Eclipse Problem
 

I resolved the problem I had with eclipse by installing j2re 1.5 from sun, I also needed to remove the java entrie from the alternatives and make a symbolic link from the j2re bin dir to /usr/bin.

steps
download and install the latest j2re package from www.java.com
on a console past
alternatives --remove java
cd 'to your j2re/bin dir"
ln -s * /usr/bin/.


This worked for me.

I get exactly the same symptoms with an Intel D915GAG motherboard system (on-board graphic adapter) running a virgin installation of FC4 / Eclipse 3.1. I am running kernel-smp-2.6.11-1.1369_FC4. Any ideas anyone?

On further searching, I found that this has already been logged and diagnosed under
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla....cgi?id=152386
It would appear that the problem only occurs when logged on as root. This was certainly the case in my instance.

As jdogpc says the error goes, if the jre1.5..... is used. The hang does not happen even if you are logged in as root. Moreover using jre 1.5... is essential if you are going to use LimeWire.

The steps for make jre 1.5... your default java is listed below:

a)Download latest jre rpm from java site: http://java.sun.com/j2se/index.jsp
b)change mode: chmod a+x jre-1_5_0_<version>-linux-i586-rpm.bin
c)run the self extracting file: ./jre-1_5_0_<version>-linux-i586-rpm.bin

Fedora uses alternatives to manage multiple versions of java.

d)Add it as an alternative:
alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java /usr/java/jre1.5.0_04/bin/java 1421
here alternatives –install is the command and its option
/usr/bin/java is the link
java is the name
/usr/java/jre1.5.0_04/bin/java is the directory of updated jre
1421 is the priority given, this has to be higher than existing jre (it is 1420 in the present installation)

Then make jre1.5 as the default.
e)alternative --config java
This will display a numbered list of the java alternatives and let you change the default.

Confirm the change.
f)alternative --display java
Current `best' version is /usr/java/jre1.5.0_04/bin/java is displayed

g)command java -version will show jre1.5

f)open a new file /etc/profile.d/java.sh
gedit /etc/profile.d/java.s
type the following lines and enter at the end
export J2RE_HOME=/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_06
export PATH=$J2RE_HOME/bin:$PATH
save and exit

g)enter the command: source /etc/profile.d/java.sh
h)now command: which java will show the current version

Open Eclipse and it will not hang

EXCELLENT help, bumeshrai - except (and this is most likely some ignorance on my part) -

I am in bash, and when I try to do step d) in your instructions:

alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java /usr/java/jre1.5.0_04/bin/java 1421

i get this -

bash: alternatives: command not found

Do I need to be in a certain directory? Any ideas??

thanks in advance !!

using FC4 btw - really want to get ECLIPSE running!

That's because it's in /usr/sbin , and that's not in the default PATH it seems. You can just call it with the full path, i.e. "/usr/sbin/alternatives --install"... (btw, to find things easily, check the man pages for "locate" and "updatedb")

and thanks a lot, bumeshrai, This is exactly what I needed. (It turns out I had jre1.5 installed in /opt , though...not sure what package I used to install that there before)

Thanks everyone!

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Thanks again