Hi,

I am having this problem with F 10. First I get the infamous message: Could not detect stabilization, waiting 10 seconds. at the beginning of the booting process. then after I initiate startx, I use gnome, all works fine and only for few minutes and the system freezes. At first the mouse freezes, then after 30 seconds or so, the mouse's cursor can move but clicks are ineffective, not even Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, or Ctrl+Alt+Del. I have to do hard reset.

I use a Toshiba Satellite laptop, A135-S2386.

Faizlo

Hi, I'm havina a very similar problem :

Laptop boots Fedora core 10 into Gnome fine. Can work / browse the net / etc for a few minutes (not always the same amount of time ) then it freezes:
At first the mouse freezes, then after 30 seconds or so, the mouse's cursor can move but clicks are ineffective, not even Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, or Ctrl+Alt+Del. I have to do hard reset.

I have a Sahara NB 556-434-E040 laptop.
Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo CPU T2250 @ 1.73GHz
ATI radeon 200m graphics
Ralink Wireless LAN Card V2
Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC

I suspect the Wireless card as I've had problems with Ubuntu and Linux Mint also freezing on this notebook after a couple of minutes. I solved this in Linux Mint by telling the system to "use windows drivers "...

I haven't found this option in Fedora, so I'm going to try boot into Fedora with the wireless turned off and see what happens.



Michael

That was exactly what I had. I almost have the same configuration for my laptop! I bet you used the Live CD to install Fedora. If so, what I did is that I used the .iso for netinstall (129MB), burned it, and installed again. It was fine and worked well, never freezed again.

Apart from this problem, I want to say that F9 is better and more stable, till they solve all the issues with F10 stick to F9. This is a personal view.

faizlo

I have the same problem with Fedora 9 or 10. I can no longer boot up into runlevel 5 and login.

I get gdm-greeter screen, but within about 10 seconds, system freezes (cursor no
longer moves, cntl-alt-F1 no longer works, etc.).

I can successfully boot to runlevel 3, and then successfully do 'startx' without
apparent problems.

Is there a solution for this issued?

thanks

This may be the ATI-graphics boot screen problem.
Try adding NOMODESET to end of the grub kernel line.
You won't get the animated boot graphic anymore, just a moving bar but for me that fixed this problem.

Hello, I tried both the netinstall disks and the NOMODESET kernel option.
Both did not work against the freezing problem.

What DID work was adding the following kernel options in my /boot/grub/menu.lst: noapic acpi=off
Those fixed my freezing problem.

I hope this helps others

The same thing happened to me as soon as I updated my Fefora 9 to Fedora 10. I think I solved the problem. I hope this can help.
Check your Yumex. You will probably notice that your system has a bunch of fc9 as well as fc10 rpm packages. Make sure your that you check your repositories in Yumex and activate "updates" (Fedora 10 updates). This repository had been disabled in Fedora 9. Once you activate it, Yumex will find a large number of packages to update. At the end of the process, you will be left with no more fc9 packages. This solved the freeze issue on my laptop.

paolinuxx that is why using "upgrade" is not the recommended way.

I am using fedora 10 32bit in an intel pentium D processor,and ATI radeon x200 integrated graphics.
I am having similar problems. My system freezes after some time of work after logging in in GNOME or KDE with compiz and all those effects disabled. The desktop completely freezes, and after sometime the mouse unlocks, i can move it, but all keeps freezed, and i have to use the main power and hard boot.
I used fedora 8 in this system with livna drivers , but there were so such problems. After i used the nomodeset kernel parameter, i am now logging in through KDE in this fedora 10 system, in the system i mentioned, and this is the longest this system has run after the fedora 10 installation (clean install).

I am testing the fedora 10 here, and if it seems good, i will update my system (which is another one with ATI Radeon 1250x integrated graphics, and fedora 8 x86_64).

Do anyone know if any update fixes this issue with using hardware acceleration.

For information i also must say that a system in our college containing OpenSuse (the latest one) has the same issue.

Phoxis
off hand i would suspect that it is the ati driver for the integrated chipset ,that has bugs bugs with the new xorg7.3/7.4 that is in fedora 9 and 10.

i cant get where is the bug, but the problem now is, i installed f10 in my friend's laptop, with ATI 3200HD series graphics, it was working. After a crash in KDE 4.1.2 he had to reboot, and the system logs into KDE , and plays the greetings sound, but shows nothing, white screen.

i told him to set nomodeset, but it didnt work, but GNOME is working fine.

now i dont know if this particular happening is of KDE's internal, cause i haven't seen the system after the crash (he told me on phone). So whay it to do, what do you think, will updating the system will fix? else the fedora 10 is becoming unusable.

I have updated the kernel and the xorg libs, but same thing persists, and it is also happening in GNOME, but less.
I installed system-config-display and then auto configured my card, and after the xorg.conf was created, the problem was a bit different, now it does not completely freezes (have not tested for that long) but it has got choppy, like when i press the KDE menu it launches the menu and pauses for 4 secs, and you cant move the mouse. You open a window, and freezes for 3 secs, and then you get the mouse 3 inches ahed again it freezes.

It seems to be a serious problem, which is making f10 unusable and sick. I think the developers should look at it more seriously, though there are bugs submitted.

Please feedback

seeing as you had no problem with fedora 8 ( the old xorg) and fedora 9 and 10 have problems ( new xorg) i would guess that it is the ati driver that has a problem with the new xorg .you can downgrade fedora 10's xorg back to the one in fedora 8 .or wait for ati to support the new xorg for that chipset ( wont happen)

also kde4 on fedora is a incomplete kde. KDE 4 is still being wrote .

ya, i know that KDE 4 is quite immature, and KDE 3.5 is very much stable and usable.
But you caannot tell directly that it is only a problem of the ati drivers, cause if you read the bug reports a lot of ppl with nvidia, and intel chips has such problems. Some people has no problems with GNOME,and some dont have any problen with KDE either.
But who are facing problems, is facing in KDE mainly, like me, and lesser in GNOME. No one has reported such problems with XFCE.

Today, i logged in GNOME , launched a terminal and then issued a command

kwin --replace

which instantly changed the window decor engine from gtk to kwin.

before changing i can do anything without any lockups, (almost anything)

After changing i moved the terminal window and it locked up. The effect is same as it freezes in KDE, when i move any window , a bit fast, or for long, it the whole system locks up.

So the problem may be in kwin, or its dependencies, or any component which kwin uses, and moving, or doing something else (which creates the lock up) triggers that bad component which causes this.


This has to be solved, or F10 is being an unusable and sick OS.

Please try replacing the GNOME gtk to kwin like me (them, who has similar problems like me) and see if you get the same.

I tried replacing kwin with gtk in KDE, but the command do not terminate.


And for downgrading the X, i have read that a lot of ppl, tried this, but still the problem remains. Still i will try downgrading the X and also the kernel.