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Old 01-11-2005, 03:46 AM   #1
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Question FC3 Sound Problems in Gnome & KDE


Have got 32bit FC3 up and running on my Athlon64 machine and in most respects it does the business - very stable, runs everything and delivers the best Wine performance I've yet seen (I have Windows games junkies to sate). This is the first time (having previously run Mandrake, SuSe and Ubuntu on this and two other PCs) that I've found Wine (and some winex) programmes deliver perfect sound. Which is great, BUT:

The sound in native Linux apps is not great. In Gnome, the sound is clipped and scratchy with some distortion. In KDE, sound is perfect but delayed - so the sound occurs a full couple of seconds after the visible action. I've googled away at this and found various threads dealing with no sound but not this type of poor sound issue. Ideally I'd like to get Gnome sound running without distortion as I much prefer the Gnome desktop.

I have integrated AC97 audio, running the intelsnd8x0. The Gnome "soundcard detection" test renders a flawless piece of music. But every programme launched from the Gnome menu or desktop has the distortion. DVDs play perfectly in Xine, providing they are launched by the xine -V XShm --auto-play --auto-scan dvd command on insertion. If I stop the DVD to do something else and then restart it I get the same sound distortion that afflicts other native apps launched from Gnome.

On GStreamer the only option that works on test is ESD- although changing it to ALSA is possible it makes no difference and the test fails "Failed to construct test pipeline..."

Any suggestions gratefully received....
 
Old 01-11-2005, 04:54 AM   #2
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. In KDE, sound is perfect but delayed - so the sound occurs a full couple of seconds after the visible action
To correct this try this out:
put those line in your .bash_profile:
Code:
SDL_AUDIODRIVER=alsa
export SDL_AUDIODRIVER
then logout, then login in KDE again open a terminal and type:
Code:
set
 
Old 01-11-2005, 07:35 AM   #3
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Thank you, perfect_circle for a prompt and helpful reply. That sorted the KDE delay problem. So now I can get AOK sound for all my programs in KDE at least. Gnome, however, remains a problem: it has now lost all sound on native apps.....
 
Old 01-11-2005, 09:07 AM   #4
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Thank you, perfect_circle for a prompt and helpful reply. That sorted the KDE delay problem. So now I can get AOK sound for all my programs in KDE at least. Gnome, however, remains a problem: it has now lost all sound on native apps.....
Well i had to update the libgnome to have sound in native apps in FC2, but the sound is not good, so i have dissabled it. I preffer my Gnome quiet anyway...

I mean if you go and play the sound event clips (/usr/share/sound) with xmms you get a much better sound than you get in the preferencies->sound (test ).
Also make sure that the sound is enabled in preferencies->sound
well ...good luck
 
Old 01-12-2005, 04:07 AM   #5
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Thanks again perfect_circle. I too am not that bothered by the Gnome GUI sound events - but this affects sound in any linux app launched from Gnome menu or gnome-generated icon, including for example, Xine and Tuxracer.

However I found a sort of fix. Having used your advice to fix KDE I create copies of KDE menu entries on the desktop in KDE, reboot to Gnome and, voila - launching those apps with these KDE generated icons gives perfect sound even though I'm running Gnome.........

Great stuff pending a more fundamental solution to the Gnome sound glitch.... which has returned to one of distorted, rather than no, sound after a reboot.
 
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Thanks again perfect_circle. I too am not that bothered by the Gnome GUI sound events - but this affects sound in any linux app launched from Gnome menu or gnome-generated icon, including for example, Xine and Tuxracer.
That's stange I never had this kind of problems
 
Old 02-08-2005, 03:36 AM   #7
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what games u succended with wine or tell me if better wineX pls
 
Old 02-08-2005, 04:26 PM   #8
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what games u succended with wine or tell me if better wineX pls
Mainly classic Windows fare, including:

Spider Solitaire, using WINE
"Digger", using DOSBOX
"Wolfenstein 3D", using DOSBOX
"WinBejeweled", using WINEX 3.2
"Age of Empires II", using WINEX 3.2

I think you'll get more games running under WineX (I took out a three month Cedega sub for £9). The latest version of Cedega is not always the best - 3.2 is great with Age of Empires II & Conquerors but anything later renders unreadable fonts in the game. On the other hand later versions are better with many newer games - so I used Cedega 4.1 to get SimCity 4 working. But M$ Spider won't work in any version of WIneX or Cedega. But the latest WineHQ rpms for red hat/fc give a perfect playable game except for the absence of sound effects...

I also installed the native Linux ports of "Return to Castle Wolfenstein" and Doom 3. And Quake 2 - but no sound on this one yet....

Experiment and have fun!

Barry
 
Old 02-08-2005, 09:10 PM   #9
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Perfect_Circle, I too am having the delayed sound problem, and I added that stuff to .bash_profile as you suggested, resulting in... no sound whatsoever. Is there something else that has to be done?
 
Old 02-09-2005, 04:17 AM   #10
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Pls can u provide me with some Cedega? I have some stupid Cedega-20041223-cvs
which I don't know how to start after install???? help mew out guys contact
I was asking you because u know they are incompatible which I don't like coz I have to uninstall for example crossover to get to winex, I use crossover for Dreamweaver only
 
Old 02-22-2005, 03:41 AM   #11
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I had the same distorted sound problem, but I fixed it by setting the Default Sink (in GStreamer-Preferences application) to OSS.

I had to set it, close, reopen, test a few times for it to take, but it did finally work.

However, I now cannot get multiple sound apps to play simultaneously.

Can anyone reprint here their Custom ALSA sink? I think that what I replaced was a Custom alsasink line... I want to get it back.

I'm running the 32-bit 2.6.10 kernel on an AMD64/nForce3 platform.
 
Old 02-22-2005, 06:29 AM   #12
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someone pls send me cedega some old one or whatever I want to play Rune and can't get the port coz only Loki have it for purchasing do you know a repo (warez) for such $$ ports? and I really want to play Mafia under linux what do I need?

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Old 02-22-2005, 12:26 PM   #13
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You need to stop asking about warez and crap. That is illegal.
I switched to linux so that I wouldn't have to deal with that.

Can we stay on the original topic of sound problems here? If you want to talk about Wine, make another thread.
 
Old 02-22-2005, 05:46 PM   #14
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To supplement my earlier post, sound works great in Gnome. aumix even retains its settings without having to do all kinds of weird crap ^_^

PS- To get sound working in gnome, I didn't change anything except the volume.
 
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