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Old 03-03-2009, 11:31 PM   #1
Ron7
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FC10 freeze during boot following install


Dear all

We (2 persons) are experiencing a total freeze on first boot after installing fc10 from the 6 CD distro set, and yes, we used the same discs but ran the validate check on each. One machine is a rather ancient Acer G7500G which had previously been running FC3 happily; the other is a very new Dell Notebook (now running FC9 happily). The freeze occurs after the progress bar turns all white. Pressing escape shows that the volume group(s) have been found and are now "active", but that's all she wrote.

The systems can be mounted in repair mode and I notice that there is no "functions" file in /etc/rc.d/init.d but this may be normal for FC10.

The Del owner have officially given up, but before I throw FC10 out and go to 9 also, I though the question was worth asking: has anyone installed FC10 from the CD distro as opposed to the DVD distro successfully?
 
Old 03-04-2009, 11:38 AM   #2
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I have not used the CD install, but I hope to be able to offer some help. Based on your post, I am guessing that two things are happening:
1. The installation seems to go well.
2. The boot seems to go well up to the point it freezes.

If that it true, it appears that your problem has to do with the X-server. Where it freezes is typically where you get the login screen.

In such a situation, I would first check and see if Linux seems to be running OK otherwise. A quick and dirty way to check this is:

1. If the GRUB menu does not appear automatically, hit a key to have it appear.
2. At the GRUB screen with the Fedora 10 prompt chosen, use “a” to add to the boot arguments.
3.Add the term
Code:
runlevel 3
to the end of the boot string and then use the enter key to boot.

If this boots to the command line, you can be reasonably sure that your problem is X-server related. In that case, you need to determine what video mode or drivers are needed for your laptop.
 
Old 03-04-2009, 05:17 PM   #3
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Thanks Cougar, sounds logical, but was not the cure. I was not seeing the GRUB menu but pounding keys during the boot fixed that. I've tried 3, and even single user (1). I also removed the "quiet" option from the boot nad got some extra debug info. After scanning and activating volumes, the boot process reports:

Creating root device
Mounting root filesystem
Setting up other filesystems
Switching to new root and running init

That is where the freeze takes place, so I'm guessing something very early in the init scripts. I'll persevere with 10 for a while longer (my colleague dropped the FC9 CDs on my desk this morning--the temptation is great ;-)
 
Old 03-04-2009, 11:45 PM   #4
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I've come to the conclusion that the install from the FC10 6 CD set is too broken to bother with.

The main problem is that the initscripts-8.86 did not install. I brought the system up under Repair mode, rsync'd the RPM from another machine, chrooted and installed the initscripts. The machine will now boot to single user, but a look in the install.log shows 98 errors during the install, equating to 49 things that did not install. Don't know if this is due to a distro problem or hardware. The machine in question will not boot a FC10 DVD, so I think I'll go to an older release and call this little episode fruitless, but instructive.
 
Old 03-07-2009, 06:00 AM   #5
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I am sorry that things did not turn out that well. Unfortunately, your issue seems to be in an area neither of us understand sufficiently to troubleshoot further--at least over the Internet.

Although largely unrelated, unless you feel compelled to use Fedora, I have been getting reasonably good results installing openSUSE 11.1 on different machines--both 32 and 64-bit. If you are looking for a newer release, you might consider it. Incidentally, I have only used the DVD installation of that as well, so if you need to use CDs, I cannot predict what your experience will be like. Good luck in any case.
 
Old 03-07-2009, 06:15 AM   #6
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Have you considered filing a bug report?
 
Old 04-17-2009, 07:00 AM   #7
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I encountered the exact same problem with the reboot after Fedora 10 install om my HP TC1100. Unfortunately I do not have found a fix for it jet. But I can only encourage you to not give up jet. I am not completely new to Linux and Fedora, but also not very experienced. Mostly I fix my problems by a lot of trial and error and the Forums. Inn this particular case, after installing for about the fifth time (could also have been the 8'th - at some point I lost track) it suddenly stared up properly in run level 3. The trouble is, that I do not remember what exactly it was that I did differently (as I mentioned, a lot of trial and error and it was getting kind of late...).
What I can still reconstruct is this:
 
Old 04-17-2009, 07:10 AM   #8
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... sorry, accidentally hit the enter button ... creates a nice dramatic pause though . Now, what I was going to write. In the previous install I had my HD formatted and partitioned without using LVM (since I suspected this type of partitioning as being the root of the problem) - which did not seem to be the case, since the result was the known problem at reboot. In the next install, I stuck to the default partition layout, but deactivated the 'Fedora 10 Updates' repository for the install and used the CD's, only (which are fairly old, I downloaded them in December last year).
That's it - I don't know why this should have helped, but it did. I realize, that this is probably not very help full, but I can only encourage you to keep trying...
 
Old 04-20-2009, 02:45 AM   #9
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It looks like the install from the Live CD does not have this problem. I just tried it, and it worked right away.
 
Old 04-28-2009, 03:30 PM   #10
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I updated to FC10 from FC8 without a glitch by creating live DVD which I downloaded from RedHat web-site. Might consider this if you have DVD driver to boot.
 
  


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