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Old 05-31-2017, 03:23 AM   #1
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Ape codec support [SOLVED]


Hello to all members of the forum.
I have been using Fedora 25 XFCE.
I have problem, I installed many of gstreamer codecs, but without any sucess.
Ape files are not working.
I don't want to convert those files.
Please help me to play Ape files.
Thank you.

PS Tried to play in Pragha and Clementine, but without any sucess.

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Old 05-31-2017, 07:48 AM   #2
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Hello to all members of the forum.
I have been using Fedora 25 XFCE. I have problem, I installed many of gstreamer codecs, but without any sucess. Ape files are not working. I don't want to convert those files. Please help me to play Ape files. PS Tried to play in Pragha and Clementine, but without any sucess.
Saying "not working" doesn't give us much to go on...what did it tell you exactly? And bear in mind the APE format has changed over the years...files encoded years ago are different than files encoded recently.

According to the small amount of research I did, banshee and mplayer can both play that format just fine. You don't tell us what these "many of gstreamer" codecs were called, or how you installed them, so we have no way of knowing if you're on the right track or not. Also, pretty much everything will tell you to convert the ape files to FLAC or MP3, specifically because of problems dealing with them in most 'standard' players.
 
Old 05-31-2017, 01:22 PM   #3
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Clementine info - "Your gstreamer installation is missing a plugin"

Terminal otput

" WARN unknown QTimeLine::start: already running"

I had no problem with Linux Mint with playing those files, but with Fedora, I have problem.

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Old 05-31-2017, 01:46 PM   #4
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Clementine info - "Your gstreamer installation is missing a plugin"

Terminal otput
" WARN unknown QTimeLine::start: already running"

I had no problem with Linux Mint with playing those files, but with Fedora, I have problem.
Again...banshee and mplayer can play ape files. Clementine cannot, but *MAY* be able to if you install flacon. This is apparently a well known bug with Clementine...did you research it at all before posting? Much like your other thread, where you provided next to no details.

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Nevermind, I think that you didn't understand my question.
Have a nice day, friend.
 
Old 05-31-2017, 04:56 PM   #6
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Nevermind, I think that you didn't understand my question.
Have a nice day, friend.
Hi...

Not trying to sound rude but what wasn't understood? Did Clementine play these files without problems in Mint? In Fedora, does Banshee or Mplayer play them?

Regards...

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Old 06-01-2017, 01:25 AM   #7
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Yes, Clementine played files without problems in Mint.
In Fedora, Amarok, Clementine and Pragha can't play APE, so it seems that is the APE problem.
Maybe is the codec problem ?
 
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Maybe is the codec problem ?
Hi...

That's my guess. The very first thing you should do is try TB0ne's suggestion and install flacon using your package manager. If you need to install it manually, you can find an .rpm package of the file here for 64 bit or here for 32 bit. You should be able to just double click on the packages to install them. You might need to reboot your system after installing it.

If that doesn't do it, while I'm not sure if it will work but just as an experiment, see if the "audacious-plugins-freeworld-ffaudio" package is installed and if not, you can download from here if 64 bit or here if 32 bit. Then install Audacious from your package manager, if you don't already have it and then try playing your APE files using that.

Let us know how it goes...

Regards...

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Old 06-01-2017, 04:20 AM   #9
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Thank you, but I'd like to skip Audacious. It's with a lot of bugs.

Tried with installing rpm that you suggested, without any sucess. Thank you for your patience.
 
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Yes, Clementine played files without problems in Mint.
In Fedora, Amarok, Clementine and Pragha can't play APE, so it seems that is the APE problem.
Maybe is the codec problem ?
..which is EXACTLY what I told you isn't it??? Install flacon and Clementine will work; otherwise use the two players that can handle it built-in, which are banshee and mplayer.
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Thank you, but I'd like to skip Audacious. It's with a lot of bugs.
Please point out any piece of software anywhere that doesn't have them. And you weren't told to install audacious...just the codecs.
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Tried with installing rpm that you suggested, without any sucess. Thank you for your patience.
AGAIN...just saying "without any success" tells us nothing.

Had you actually read the link you were handed before, you can just type "yum install flacon", and that's it.
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That's my guess. The very first thing you should do is try TB0ne's suggestion and install flacon using your package manager. If you need to install it manually, you can find an .rpm package of the file here for 64 bit or here for 32 bit. You should be able to just double click on the packages to install them. You might need to reboot your system after installing it.
Please, pay attention to what you're telling new users. Providing links to direct RPM packages isn't a good thing pretty much for ANYONE, much less a new user. Downloading packages manually is never a good way to install things, which is what the "without any success" message is about....RPM's need dependencies, which package managers take care of. And why, exactly, would installing a multimedia coded require a reboot??
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If that doesn't do it, while I'm not sure if it will work but just as an experiment, see if the "audacious-plugins-freeworld-ffaudio" package is installed and if not, you can download from here if 64 bit or here if 32 bit. Then install Audacious from your package manager, if you don't already have it and then try playing your APE files using that.
And installing a package for a player they don't have installed, and which doesn't provide the program in question with what it needs, is pointless.
 
Old 06-01-2017, 04:45 PM   #11
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Downloading packages manually is never a good way to install things, which is what the "without any success" message is about....RPM's need dependencies, which package managers take care of. And why, exactly, would installing a multimedia coded require a reboot??
Do you know for a fact these codecs required dependencies? It's true that installing from a package manager or command line is better way to go, however, not all packages are available in a distribution's repositories, or at least the ones that are enabled or installed on a user's system. This is why I sometimes offer an OP the method to download manually.

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And installing a package for a player they don't have installed, and which doesn't provide the program in question with what it needs, is pointless.
Not necessarily. You will notice that I said "as an experiment." It was worth it just to see.

Please keep in mind there's sometimes more than one way to fix an issue and your way doesn't mean it's always the best or the only one!

Regards...

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Old 06-01-2017, 06:55 PM   #12
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Do you know for a fact these codecs required dependencies?
Nope...but assuming they don't, and sending a new user down a potential rabbit hole of "I downloaded xxx, but can't install it! Help!" isn't too good of an idea. Especially when the entire issue can be avoided by typing in "sudo yum install flacon".
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It's true that installing from a package manager or command line is better way to go, however, not all packages are available in a distribution's repositories, or at least the ones that are enabled or installed on a user's system. This is why I sometimes offer an OP the method to download manually.
Again, bad advice...more so in this case, since the flacon package IS available in the Fedora 25 repos. If you're not going to help posters solve their problems and keep their systems stable, there's not much point replying. Forcing in a package can/will-most-likely cause system instability. Package managers were created to avoid installing RPM's manually, so flat out telling someone to do so is plain dumb.
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Not necessarily. You will notice that I said "as an experiment." It was worth it just to see.
See what? If they have time to waste? Without the parent software, the RPM will most likely fail....leading to MORE dependency problems. Or would you like the OP to go hacking through them one at a time, for your 'experiment'?
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Please keep in mind there's sometimes more than one way to fix an issue and your way doesn't mean it's always the best or the only one!
Very true...the OP could also download the source code for everything, one at a time, and compile it all from scratch. They could also write their own compiler and language, and write their OWN software to do it. The number of solutions is plentiful...the number of efficient solutions is limited. Yours isn't one of them.

Telling a new user to download and try to manually install an RPM is plain bad, period. Telling them to try to install yet ANOTHER RPM (which WILL fail because they don't have the parent software installed) is even worse. All you're doing is getting the OP to waste time, get frustrated trying to figure out how to do things they could easily do with one mouse-click or command, all the while still having an issue. And 'a reboot may be required' after installing an RPM? Not unless it's kernel-related, thanks.
 
Old 06-02-2017, 02:29 PM   #13
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1. su
2. dnf install gstreamer{1,}-{ffmpeg,libav,plugins-{good,ugly,bad{,-free,-nonfree}}} --setopt=strict=0
3. dnf install gstreamer{1,}-{plugin-crystalhd,ffmpeg,plugins-{good,ugly,bad{,-free,-nonfree,-freeworld,-extras}{,-extras}}} libmpg123 lame-libs --setopt=strict=0
 
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1. su
2. dnf install gstreamer{1,}-{ffmpeg,libav,plugins-{good,ugly,bad{,-free,-nonfree}}} --setopt=strict=0
3. dnf install gstreamer{1,}-{plugin-crystalhd,ffmpeg,plugins-{good,ugly,bad{,-free,-nonfree,-freeworld,-extras}{,-extras}}} libmpg123 lame-libs --setopt=strict=0
Hi...

Glad you were able to get this resolved, thank you for sharing how you did it. I learned a little more about what packages offer the needed codecs in Fedora.

Regards...

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