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Old 12-10-2009, 07:23 PM   #1
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About installation of Fedora11


Hi folks,

I'm prepared installing Fedora11 from;

Fedora-11-i386-netinst.iso

If I only need a base system (OS) without X what shall I select? TIA

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Old 12-10-2009, 09:27 PM   #2
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Wouldn't it be simplest to just not install the X-server. Then nothing that depends on it would be installed.

If you have a F11 installation (with X and a GUI installed), just do a yum erase X and capture the list of dependencies to be uninstalled. (And, of course, cancel the "erase" before it runs.) Compare that list of dependencies with the list of everything you've installed, and the difference is what you need for a "no X" system.

Note 1: If I were to install a "no X" system, I'd be strongly inclined to install the mc package and, perhaps, the emacs package to give me a "pseudo-GUI" interface. (I "automatically" install mc with any distribution I use so I have a nice pseudo-GUI file manager/editor available when X fails to work. EMACS, while less "intuitive" to use, is a much more complete X replacement.)

Note 2: F12 was released last month. F13 will (probably) be released in six months. F11 support will be terminated one month after F13 is released. So you're planing on installing a system that will be unsupported in less than a year.
 
Old 12-10-2009, 09:42 PM   #3
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Wouldn't it be simplest to just not install the X-server. Then nothing that depends on it would be installed.

If you have a F11 installation (with X and a GUI installed), just do a yum erase X and capture the list of dependencies to be uninstalled. (And, of course, cancel the "erase" before it runs.) Compare that list of dependencies with the list of everything you've installed, and the difference is what you need for a "no X" system.

Note 1: If I were to install a "no X" system, I'd be strongly inclined to install the mc package and, perhaps, the emacs package to give me a "pseudo-GUI" interface. (I "automatically" install mc with any distribution I use so I have a nice pseudo-GUI file manager/editor available when X fails to work. EMACS, while less "intuitive" to use, is a much more complete X replacement.)
Hi PTrenholme,

Thanks for your advice.

Actually I only need a base OS with a text editor, nano/vim running. LFS (LinuxFromScratch) will do the job for me but it will take 5~6 days to complete the installation.

I install Fedora11 on a VM (guest) of KVM.


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Note 2: F12 was released last month. F13 will (probably) be released in six months. F11 support will be terminated one month after F13 is released. So you're planing on installing a system that will be unsupported in less than a year.
Thanks for your info. I'll install it on another VM. Also I only need a base OS plus a simple text editor.


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Old 12-10-2009, 09:55 PM   #4
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Well, couldn't you just install one of the Linux "rescue" images? Those all just boot you to a "root" command prompt, although some are OS specific. Grab something like the SystemRescueCD and install it to your VM. Then delete any of the tools you don't want.
 
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Well, couldn't you just install one of the Linux "rescue" images? Those all just boot you to a "root" command prompt, although some are OS specific. Grab something like the SystemRescueCD and install it to your VM. Then delete any of the tools you don't want.
Hi PTrenholme,

I'm now downloading;

SystemRescueCd-x86-1.3.3

from;
http://www.sysresccd.org/Download

I wonder to know about its version. Is it Fedora12 or Fedora13?

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Old 12-11-2009, 12:25 AM   #6
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system rescue is just a full feature live cd with a bunch of realy good tools
it dose not install .It runs off the cd and the system ram
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I wonder to know about its version. Is it Fedora12 or Fedora13?
what .

do you mean the version of systemrescue?
 
Old 12-11-2009, 12:30 AM   #7
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I wonder to know about its version. Is it Fedora12 or Fedora13?
what .

do you mean the version of systemrescue?
Hi John VV,

If I expecting installing the base OS of Fedora 12 where shall I start?

Same as Fedora 13?


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Old 12-11-2009, 02:32 AM   #8
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just do a text only install of fedora 12

that option is in the installer

then NO x11 will be installed
if this is for a server I WOULD INSTALL CentOS 5.4 , not Fedora -- in 6 monthe you WILL need to do a FULL reinstall ( also reformat disk) for fedora 13

CentOS 5.4 has about 4 years of SUPPORT left vs. 12 months
 
Old 12-11-2009, 08:48 AM   #9
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Hi PTrenholme,

I'm now downloading;

SystemRescueCd-x86-1.3.3

from;
http://www.sysresccd.org/Download

I wonder to know about its version. Is it Fedora12 or Fedora13?

B.R.
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we seem to have a slight miss-communication here. The SystemRescueCD is not a Fedora-based system. (It's, I believe, derived from Gentoo.) All I was suggesting was that, instead of installing any version of Fedora (although the "text install" option mentioned by John W is a good way to do it), you just use any bootable rescue image for your virtual machine.

My point was only that I couldn't see why you wanted to install Fedora as a command-line only system in a virtual image. What would you expect Fedora to provide that any other bash shell from any distribution would not provide?

<edit>
Re the "text install" installation directive, the F12 installation guide says, "If you prefer to use the text-based installer, type linux text at the boot: prompt."
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Last edited by PTrenholme; 12-11-2009 at 08:57 AM.
 
  


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