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01-03-2004, 09:28 AM
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Sydney
Distribution: Debian
Posts: 55
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Why do you like DEBIAN????
APT-GET Becouse of this tool???
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01-03-2004, 09:49 AM
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Registered: Dec 2003
Distribution: Debian/unstable
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yeah! because of this shiny lil' tool !
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01-03-2004, 09:59 AM
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Registered: Jul 2003
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Last edited by *IP*; 01-03-2004 at 10:10 AM.
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01-03-2004, 10:06 AM
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Registered: Dec 2003
Distribution: Debian/unstable
Posts: 30
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this is a even better reason.
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01-03-2004, 10:53 AM
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Houston, TX, USA
Distribution: Debian
Posts: 569
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Because it has the best infrastructure of any distribution around.
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01-03-2004, 12:51 PM
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Registered: Nov 2003
Distribution: debian
Posts: 66
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b/c of the many easy to install packages.... very stable... plus b.c it is the largest noncommercial distro many proprietry programs (aim ... etc) support debian
-race
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01-04-2004, 02:32 PM
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: California
Distribution: Ubuntu
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I just do. Debian is the best distro of Linux out there period, right now. And I don't see that changing anytime soon.
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01-06-2004, 03:09 PM
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Whangarei New Zealand
Distribution: Slack 8.1
Posts: 300
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What about Slackware? ....how does it stack up?...i know this is a hard question because they both have their good and bad parts...but what makes u choose it over a distro like slack?
I am currently a long time slack user, but want to try out something else.
in slack i like the flexability of the distro, and the non-bloatedness...i also like to do everything myself ie: changes to the system, although sometimes wizards can be handy...
my main trouble with slack is that because of its flexability its very hard to have a system that has the right versions of libraries etc available when installing various apps.. is this controlled in debian?
cheers guys!
Jurgen
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01-06-2004, 05:28 PM
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Member
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Toronto, Canada
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 523
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Quote:
Originally posted by N_A_J_M
my main trouble with slack is that because of its flexability its very hard to have a system that has the right versions of libraries etc available when installing various apps.. is this controlled in debian?
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Yes, Debian's APT along with its many tools allow for dependencies to be worked out automagically when you install a program.
ie: if you don't have GTK+ installed, but want GAIM, all you have to do is apt-get install gaim and it will install GTK+ too because it is a dependency.
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01-06-2004, 09:14 PM
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Whangarei New Zealand
Distribution: Slack 8.1
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cheers poprocks...
ok one more question before i head off to download the testing phase version of debian, do i really need all the cds?? which are the important/required ones?
also does it include the lastest version of kde, libraries, etc?
sorry to go off topic....right back onto it after this :P
cheers
Jurgen
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01-06-2004, 10:19 PM
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Registered: Dec 2003
Distribution: Debian
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No you only !NEED! the cd relating to your "flavor". The flavor is like version, and decides what drivers are loaded automatically, what's supported during install, and what version kernel you use. Really for a desktop you should use Vanilla (standard) or I found that the bf2.4 or (bf2.6 maybe, I'm not sure on the number) supports a lot more modern hardware including usb and newer IDE controllers during install. That one cd of choice will get you running the basic linux kernel. However, all the cds contain some of the 8300+ packages availible with debian and you won't be able to install all the possible useful packages right away unless you scan all the cds. Find the debian install manual on the net, it will tell you loads of good info.
I got all 7 debian cds from linuxcdrs for like 13$ shipped or something. They came in a few days. To me it was worth the 13$ for 7cds! 7cds is a lot of dl and burn time, at least on my pc.
Good Luck
Garrett
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01-07-2004, 03:52 AM
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Houston, TX, USA
Distribution: Debian
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Quote:
Originally posted by N_A_J_M
ok one more question before i head off to download the testing phase version of debian, ...
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Don't use testing. Use either stable or unstable. And since you want the latest stuff, I'd use unstable (though beware that things will occasionally break and it would behoove you to learn the Debian way of doing things and how to troubleshoot/fix these errors).
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01-07-2004, 12:36 PM
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Greenville, SC
Distribution: Debian, antiX, MX Linux
Posts: 639
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How to install Debian
Quote:
Originally posted by N_A_J_M
cheers poprocks...
ok one more question before i head off to download the testing phase version of debian, do i really need all the cds?? which are the important/required ones?
also does it include the lastest version of kde, libraries, etc?
sorry to go off topic....right back onto it after this :P
cheers
Jurgen
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There are a number of easy ways to install Debian. The easiest way to get started, in my opinion, is to pick either a Live CD implementation, such as Knoppix, Gnoppix (the GNOME version of Knoppix), Mepis, or Morphix. You can run it from Live CD to take a peek. If it works on your system, you can then install it to your hard drive. From there, you can select your download mirror site(s). Once you do that, installing new software is simply a matter of typing in stuff like
apt-get install mozilla
You can upgrade the versions of whatever you have by running the command
apt-get upgrade
or
apt-get dist-upgrade
If you would really prefer to use a plain generic version of Debian to get started, you can begin with either the netinst ISO image, a couple of boot floppies, or there are also ISO images containing a great number of packages in the current stable release or the current testing release.
Personally, I'd start with a Live CD. Another great option is to begin with a download edition of an easy to use distribution, such as Libranet, LindowsOS, or Xandros. These are commercial distributions, however, and unless you can get some CDs from somebody or find an ISO image source, this would cost money. The Live CDs and the Debian download site don't cost anything but the cost of your network.
If you don't have a fast network, though, it might be worth purchasing a kit of Debian ISO images. I think LinuxQuestions.org advertises one possible source, should you need to go that route. Otherwise, I recommend the Live CD approach, it's faster to get started, but you can still do all the usual Debian stuff with the final product.
Oh, synaptic is a really nice, GUI based package management system. It's a GUI interface on top of the apt-get, dselect, dpkg Debian packaging system. I recommend it. You can easily obtain it, if your download doesn't already have it, by typing in the command
apt-get install synaptic.
From there, just type synaptic from the command line and you'll have an easy to manage packaging system that takes care of packaging dependencies for you.
You can easily get the latest KDE, GNOME, or any other project libraries once your update site(s) point to the appropriate locations. Send me Email if you have difficulty with this.
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01-08-2004, 01:26 AM
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Member
Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Greenville, SC
Distribution: Debian, antiX, MX Linux
Posts: 639
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Re: Why do you like DEBIAN????
Quote:
Originally posted by banana2
APT-GET Becouse of this tool???
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I like Debian because it is free, open, flexible, extensible, readily available, available in easy to install forms, both free and commercial. I can use Live CDs, stable distributions, bleeding edge test systems and just about everything in between. I can use it as an every day desktop system, a test system, a server, or just a good old general purpose system.
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01-08-2004, 02:50 AM
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Member
Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Bucharest,RO
Distribution: debian etch, sarge and sid
Posts: 407
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many
likes:
- apt tools, aptitude
- structure
- packaging tools that are accessible to anybody
- make-kpkg
- simple and robust init scripts
- non-comercial
- loads of software
- security is taken seriousely
- social contract
- jablicator
dislikes:
- very old stable version
- a machine not connected to the internet is a little boring
wishlist:
- custom jigdo cds made online by using jablicator packages
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