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Old 10-22-2018, 10:18 AM   #1
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Question What's wrong with my Debian Jessie sources list?


On an old "Debian Jessie" PowerPC machine this is my actual sources.list:

Code:
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free 
deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free 
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-proposed-updates main 
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main 
deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main
deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org/ jessie main non-free 
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main
What's wrong with the emphasised lines?

apt-get update complains about this specific line (or two, if you count the deb-src too) is wrong and can't update from this source.

I couldn't find online what would be wrong with my sources-list, anyone got a clue which can help me?

Thanks in advance! :-)
 
Old 10-22-2018, 10:54 AM   #2
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In my sources list (which is for Stretch, not Jessie, but that shouldn't make any differences), these lines read:
Code:
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main
Most of the source lines use debian as their top-level directory, but security uses debian-security. Don't ask me why!

Last edited by hazel; 10-22-2018 at 10:55 AM.
 
Old 10-22-2018, 11:17 AM   #3
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Debian has dropped all support for PowerPC.

Jessie has moved to oldstable/LTS status, but only for i386, amd64, and arm architectures.

https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Using
https://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/
 
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Old 10-22-2018, 11:20 AM   #4
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@hazel: edited it like yours, didn't make a difference. :-(

@snowpine: don't get it. They said they will support PowerPC until 2020, now it's 2018!? What happened??
 
Old 10-22-2018, 11:28 AM   #5
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When you say, "apt-get update complains about this specific line," what is the specific error message, please?
 
Old 10-22-2018, 11:33 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by warai_otoko View Post
@snowpine: don't get it. They said they will support PowerPC until 2020, now it's 2018!? What happened??
Who is "they"?

More info here:
https://www.debian.org/security/2018/dsa-4205

Quote:
As with previous releases additional LTS support will be provided for a reduced set of architectures and packages
And here:
https://www.debian.org/News/2018/20180623
 
Old 10-22-2018, 12:20 PM   #7
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Here the specific error message, in German:
Quote:
W: Fehlschlag beim Holen von http://security.debian.org/debian-se...ates/InRelease Erwarteter Eintrag >>main/binary-powerpc/Packages konnte in Release-Datei nicht gefunden werden (falscher Eintrag in sources.list oder missgebildete Datei).
"They" is "the Internet":

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comme...t_for_powerpc/
https://www.applefritter.com/content...hitecture-list
https://liliputing.com/2017/06/debia...-released.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian...bian_8_(Jessie)

"They" lie??

Edit: okay, see Wikipedia, this line: 8 oldstable Jessie 25–26 April 2015 10 ≈ 43,000 3.16 17 June 2018 30 June 2020

Well...

Last edited by warai_otoko; 10-22-2018 at 12:21 PM. Reason: update
 
Old 10-22-2018, 12:33 PM   #8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by warai_otoko View Post
Here the specific error message, in German:


"They" is "the Internet":

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comme...t_for_powerpc/
https://www.applefritter.com/content...hitecture-list
https://liliputing.com/2017/06/debia...-released.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian...bian_8_(Jessie)

"They" lie??

Edit: okay, see Wikipedia, this line: 8 oldstable Jessie 2526 April 2015 10 ≈ 43,000 3.16 17 June 2018 30 June 2020

Well...
To obtain English output for a single command, try prefixing that command on the command line with LC_ALL=C, e.g.:

Code:
LC_ALL=C sudo apt-get update
 
Old 10-22-2018, 12:33 PM   #9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by warai_otoko View Post
Here the specific error message, in German:
My German is terrible! Google Translate tells me "packages cannot be found in release file."

So, let's take a look at the release file: http://security.debian.org/debian-se...ates/InRelease

Look at line 8:

Code:
Architectures: amd64 armel armhf i386
My interpretation is that there are no more security updates for Debian Jessie PowerPC architecture.

Of course, you may continue to use Jessie for as long as you like. You just won't get any automatic security updates from the Debian team.
 
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Old 10-22-2018, 12:39 PM   #10
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See here for LTS (extended) support. PowerPC is not included for Jessie.

https://wiki.debian.org/LTS
 
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Old 10-22-2018, 12:46 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by hydrurga View Post
See here for LTS (extended) support. PowerPC is not included for Jessie.

https://wiki.debian.org/LTS
Yes, seems to be correct, see my edit above: see Wikipedia, this line: 8 oldstable Jessie 2526 April 2015 10 ≈ 43,000 3.16 17 June 2018 30 June 2020

Apparently this was the last day of the mainline Debian team. :-(

Okay, well, any other options, maybe a repository from an individual?

Somehow I'm scared to be online today with this box...
 
Old 10-22-2018, 12:51 PM   #12
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Okay, well, any other options, maybe a repository from an individual?

Somehow I'm scared to be online today with this box...
The short-term solution, if there are any vulnerabilities you are worried about, is to patch the software yourself.

The permanent solution is to upgrade your hardware to a supported architecture.

And don't panic. Nothing has changed overnight. Your computer is as safe to use today as it was yesterday.

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Old 10-22-2018, 02:15 PM   #13
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https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList
 
Old 10-22-2018, 03:26 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by snowpine View Post
The short-term solution, if there are any vulnerabilities you are worried about, is to patch the software yourself.

The permanent solution is to upgrade your hardware to a supported architecture.

And don't panic. Nothing has changed overnight. Your computer is as safe to use today as it was yesterday.
:-)

Confusion is gone now, didn't know this specific source is only valid until end of June 2018. Thanks for your help, marked as solved.
 
  


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