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travm 01-31-2007 08:51 AM

video garbled
 
Hi, I have installed debian 3.1r4 Sarge on my computer, however, i had some problems configuring the video. i have installed xfree86, gnome, and gdm. I dont really understand what the configuration menus are doing. the first time I installed i couldnt select 1024x768 as a resolution, and no matter what i did with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 the problem remained, i finally started messing with the XF86Config-4 file, but that just broke my xserver.
my hardware is an old Compaq motherboard, with a duron 900, 128mb pc133 and an old TNT 2 - M64 32mb. Now what i think is happening is that my Xserver is trying to run my TNT 2 in 32bit colour even though when prompted i selected 16bit as opposed to 24(32bit?), which as i recall from using this thing for gaming back in teh day was a big no-no, and generated the same type of distortion (its actually a bunch of pink dots everywhere). I also get some random lock-ups in gnome. when i was prompted in the configuration of XFree86 i selected the driver nv for my video hardware, should i have selected auto? and how do i make changes now without breaking my system? should i try a different xserver? please help, i am new to linux and if i read another manual in nano that doesnt explain anything helpful to me im gonna lose my mind.

I have started a reinstall of debian, AGAIN.. this time i am going to try another xserver if i can.

Dutch Master 01-31-2007 09:21 AM

Given the age of your hardware, Sarge should handle that properly. Oh well, if you want to re-install the lot, do so with Debian Etch. The installer is improved over Sarge, it now recognizes practically every piece of hardware, past and present :)

Given your hardware, install a lightweight like XFCE as desktop enviroment, DE's as Gnome and KDE are eating up too much resources.

Mind you, re-installing isn't necessary, but for inexperienced and new Linux users by far the fastest and easiest way. Unless you like "being thrown in at the deep end" ;)

travm 01-31-2007 09:26 AM

i cant connect this machine to the internet, so etch is out of teh question. I am stuck with 6 cds from Sarge, it seems to detect everything fine, but it appears as though it is forcing 32bit color. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 does NOTHING to change that, it doesnt even update the supported resolutions in gnome. gnome runs fine, just has the color issues.
this will be the fourth time i have reinstalled... when i start playing with the config files, i break the system. so i might as well reinstall.

travm 01-31-2007 09:31 AM

so im about to try xfce, do i need to install anything else with it?
and then once i do apt-get install xfce4
what do i do to start using it? startx?

Dutch Master 01-31-2007 09:39 AM

Debian is smart, apt knows what other packages to install when you order it to install xfce. Use the startx command to fire up a xfce session. You may also try IceWM.

travm 01-31-2007 09:42 AM

bah, i tried startxfce4 and got an xwindow error
so now i'm installing xfree86, which i didnt want to do... bah bah bah
reinstall 5 coming up i bet.

Dutch Master 01-31-2007 09:48 AM

No, the command is just simply "startx", nothing behind that. If that fails (I guess you've tried it already, right?) post the contents of the file /etc/X11/XF86Config-4. Please remove all lines starting with a hash (this character: #) to make it smaller. Use the code tags when posting that data.

travm 01-31-2007 09:49 AM

so as far as debian being smart....
why does nothing work,
startx gives error,
startxfce4 gives error
xfree86 is the only window manager i have gotten to work even abit, and its display is all messed up.
icewm does not work,

travm 01-31-2007 09:50 AM

i removed xfree86 via apt-get
should i reinstall?

Dutch Master 01-31-2007 09:52 AM

No, just re-install XFree86.

travm 01-31-2007 09:52 AM

ok, atm i have removed everything i have installed (xfce4, icewm, xfree86) and now i am reinstalling xfce4.
going to try startx again,
and if fails, check my xf86 config
also reinstalling xfree86...

travm 01-31-2007 09:57 AM

it just failed with an I/O error, and said i should install x-window-system
which i am doing now.

travm 01-31-2007 10:02 AM

ok, installing x-window-system then running startx WORKS!, but back to square one, i have garbled video, with pink stuff everywhere (looks like its forcing 32bit, even though i told it to run 16bit) and now it is locked up. I thought apt-get was smart, why do ihave to install 3 different things, just to get one program to work. and then it still doesnt work. I also thought sarge was supposed to be stable, wtf.

Dutch Master 01-31-2007 12:30 PM

Post the Xfree config file I asked about earlier.

travm 02-01-2007 11:10 PM

I think its a hardware problem, i'm getting a lan card for the linux box so i'll get it on the internet. I need to replace the video card, its not working for windows either, same distortion. tried swapping the motherboards too.


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