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Old 04-10-2007, 12:40 PM   #1
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vesa is not working, networking is on overdrive here.


I've reloaded 3x now, and can't see anything in X11, and network is totally borked even from cli.

I can mount the debian partition in my slackware and edit the files as required.

issue 1: I can't make out anything on the screen when I'm in X11...it's all green / red lines, and it's using the stock vesa driver. no updates, no additional software over and above the net-install cd nothing. radeon 9600 xt. so I need to plop in the ati proprietary as the vesa is not working. i found this guide, and downloaded all the stuff by hand in slackware, and pasted it into debian to install in single user mode.

http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Deb...allation_Guide

but I get the error message at the bottom of that how to about the libstdc++5 in /var/log/Xorg.log

do I really need to make a new kernel? is that guide still accurate?


issue 2: how do i turn off this screwy net-work manager, debian's trying to contact the internet over eth1 then eth2 then eth1 over and over and over.....anyway to stop this? i even tried ifconfig eth2 down and it brings it back up.

thanks in advance.
 
Old 04-11-2007, 04:42 AM   #2
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think i have the networking thing temporarily resolved using noauto in the ineterfaces conf file, can anyone confirm the ATI guide link/install directions for the video please?
 
Old 04-21-2007, 06:11 PM   #3
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Hope This Helps All

Got my issues resolved, just wanted to post in case anyone else has these issues. Your mileage may vary

1. having two network cards, my networking was in/out worked/not worked... going nuts! I had to remove the network-manager & network-manager-gnome from synaptics. also had to add a nameserver line / IP address to /etc/resolv.conf as 'nameserver 192.xxx.xxx" where 192.xxx.xxx is the IP of the gateway/router.

also turned off ipv6 in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases as:
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alias net-pf-10 off ipv6
2. the link for ATI guide does work, I had to put in the new libstdc++5 and recompile/cook up a new kernel.

my apt-get line to do the kernel and video and vmware is:
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apt-get install module-assistant kernel-package libncurses5-dev fakeroot wget bzip2 build-essential bin86 libqt3-headers libqt3-mt-dev dh-make debhelper debconf libstdc++5 linux-headers-$(uname -r) libx11-6 libx11-dev libxtst6 xinetd wget gcc binutils-doc make manpages-dev autoconf automake1.9 libtool flex bison gdb
I compiled an entirely different version of kernel, newer actually. You'll note that in the above apt line there, I have some things that are needed to do "make xconfig" and not use the ncurses kernel maker interface; and also in the above is so that you can install vmware see below.

Also since I build kernel's the slackware way (using Pat V's kernel config as template) & want the penguin at top when I boot and high resolution fonts for cli tweaking /boot/grub/menu.lst w/this "vga=791" fixes the resoltuion issue for me:

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kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18.8 root=/dev/hda2 ro vga=791
3. for vmware on debian 4 I had the same issue as in ubuntu and opensuse.
the items/symlinks listed here, dated "Dec 21, 2006" fixed my issue of not being able to use vmware:
http://en.opensuse.org/Setting_up_VMware_on_SUSE_Linux

if that doesn't suit your fancy, this also worked by starting up vwmare from console:
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VMWARE_USE_SHIPPED_GTK=force vmware
cheers!
 
Old 04-21-2007, 06:25 PM   #4
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Cool. Nice to see another Slacker trying out Debian
 
Old 04-22-2007, 04:55 AM   #5
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I had such bad luck on debian 3 so figured I'd give it a shot this time around; let's see

You wouldn't by any chance know why there are "two" menu's in the application's menu in the gnome would you? I have the regular applications menu and also a 'debian' one. Did I put something wrong in here to get a 'debian' menu? Some programs are only there and not in the usual gnome applications menu.

I'm using the standard repo's only. Tho I did add the testing repo just to get the checkinstall utility as that's not in etch stable main.

Tho my ultimate goal is to figure out why the log-in/log-out of this debian gdm is so 'un-kind' to my monitor. The popping on/off of the monitor repeatidly is kind of frightening. It's not as bad as ubuntu's, but I don't understand why a monitor has to kick on/off about 4 times to log-out of my normal user account back to the log-in screen. Odd.
 
Old 04-22-2007, 08:25 AM   #6
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I had such bad luck on debian 3 so figured I'd give it a shot this time around; let's see

You wouldn't by any chance know why there are "two" menu's in the application's menu in the gnome would you? I have the regular applications menu and also a 'debian' one. Did I put something wrong in here to get a 'debian' menu? Some programs are only there and not in the usual gnome applications menu.

I'm using the standard repo's only. Tho I did add the testing repo just to get the checkinstall utility as that's not in etch stable main.

Tho my ultimate goal is to figure out why the log-in/log-out of this debian gdm is so 'un-kind' to my monitor. The popping on/off of the monitor repeatidly is kind of frightening. It's not as bad as ubuntu's, but I don't understand why a monitor has to kick on/off about 4 times to log-out of my normal user account back to the log-in screen. Odd.

Yeah, I've also noticed the extra menu for applications as well. You didn't do anything wrong, I have it too.
I also added the non-free repos so I could get my media codecs and java. I need to use java to connect to my company data base.
Your monitor issues definitely sound odd.
I've installed Etch on several machines and have been lucky not to encounter anomalies. It sounds like your x windows settings need to be adjusted. Perhaps your refresh rate was set too high by the installation program? Just a guess, I don't know what would cause popping on and off.
 
Old 04-22-2007, 09:35 AM   #7
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Hi hitest,

Yes I'm using a vertical refresh of 75 not the usual 60 hz. I'll give that a shot thanks.

Oh, have you tried making any packages using the checkinstall from testing? Apparently it didn't make it's way into etch at freeze time, so I added that too.
 
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Hi hitest,

Yes I'm using a vertical refresh of 75 not the usual 60 hz. I'll give that a shot thanks.

Oh, have you tried making any packages using the checkinstall from testing? Apparently it didn't make it's way into etch at freeze time, so I added that too.
Hi Old_Fogie:-)

You're welcome. I hope the refresh rate of 60 works for you:-) No I haven't tried checkinstall, it sounds interesting though.
 
Old 04-22-2007, 03:11 PM   #9
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Nope no luck using 60 hz. Tried a different monitor too, and same thing. Tried a different video card, same thing. I'm counting 4 on/off's from when you're in gnome session, and simply log-out so you can get back to the log-in screen.

As a trial I installed the KDM, and edit my 'kdmrc' file and chose terminate server there for memory leak issues, as KDM always has for me at least, and now everything seems to be fine. The monitor only turns off once when I exit gnome, and then turns back on relatively quickly so that I have a log-in screen again.

I threw in ubuntu on a spare partition, and get the same thing there too. Really odd, but oh well. Problem sort of solved.
 
  


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