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Old 11-20-2004, 09:29 PM   #1
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Angry Upgrading to Firefox 1.0 on sarge, conflict with gnome???


Yeah, so I just saw that Firefox v1.0 is available so I was like WOOHOO! Then when I went to install it it wanted to uninstall gnome and gnome-desktop-environment. So I said "ummm, no. I rather like my current gnome desktop...."

What's up with that? It seems to be a really weird dependency conflict for a web browser. Anyone have any clues here?
 
Old 11-20-2004, 10:04 PM   #2
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Re: Upgrading to Firefox 1.0 on sarge, conflict with gnome???

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Yeah, so I just saw that Firefox v1.0 is available so I was like WOOHOO! Then when I went to install it it wanted to uninstall gnome and gnome-desktop-environment. So I said "ummm, no. I rather like my current gnome desktop...."

What's up with that? It seems to be a really weird dependency conflict for a web browser. Anyone have any clues here?
did you use apt-get to install it or did you use the tarball from FireFox/Mozilla?
 
Old 11-20-2004, 10:55 PM   #3
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i think that those messages are just refering to the metapackage that installs gnome. if that package is removed, gnome isn't. but you may need to do an "apt-get dist-upgrade" to make sure everything is up to date.
 
Old 11-21-2004, 12:37 AM   #4
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The message was from Synaptic. It wants to remove these two packages, which are 16.4kB each:

gnome
The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components
This is the GNOME Desktop environment, a graphical interface to use on your
Debian system. It includes a wide range of applications, including programs
for email, messaging, word processing, financial accounting and more.

gnome-desktop-environment
The GNOME Desktop Environment
This is the GNOME Desktop environment, a graphical interface to use on your
Debian system. It includes a wide range of applications, including programs
for email, messaging, word processing, financial accounting, conferencing,
and more.



So yeah, since they are so small I guess those are the metapackages. So its perfectly safe for me to go ahead and remove them....right?


And isn't "apt-get dist-upgrade" for upgrading Debian from woody to sarge or sarge to sid? I do not want to go to sid
 
Old 11-21-2004, 12:37 AM   #5
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"those who do not know foreign languages, know nothing about his own." (english)

Shouldn't that be

"those who do not know foreign languages know nothing about THEIR own." (english)
 
Old 11-21-2004, 02:22 AM   #6
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Also I read on Slashdot that Firefox 1.0 is having some stability issues on some systems. Have any Debian users had their Firefox browser crash on them?
 
Old 11-21-2004, 05:27 AM   #7
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Also I read on Slashdot that Firefox 1.0 is having some stability issues on some systems. Have any Debian users had their Firefox browser crash on them?
Not at all, perfectly stable so far, but i recall haveing some minor issues (some sites that use flash are DEAD slow, like http://free.grisoft.com/freeweb.php/doc/1/ ) but nothing too serious.

Also, dont apt-get it, simply install from mozilla.org, that's how i did it
 
Old 11-21-2004, 07:42 AM   #8
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"those who do not know foreign languages, know nothing about his own." (english)

Shouldn't that be

"those who do not know foreign languages know nothing about THEIR own." (english)
probably.....english is not my mother language...
 
Old 11-21-2004, 08:45 AM   #9
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Also I read on Slashdot that Firefox 1.0 is having some stability issues on some systems. Have any Debian users had their Firefox browser crash on them?
I've been running firefox 1.0 for a week or two on a mixed sarge/unstable box and have had one problem: wnck-applet crashed once. I restarted it and have had no other problems before or since.

When I installed firefox I used apt-get. However to do the install I added a link to an "unstable" mirror, ran apt-get update, and then installed from the unstable branch. As I said, it's been pretty trouble free as far as I'm concerned. I upgraded thunderbird the same way and it has been flawless. I haven't noticed any problem with flash running slow either. It has not given me any problems whatsoever.

One thing I should note... I installed all recommended and suggested packages when I upgraded to 1.0.
 
Old 11-21-2004, 11:48 AM   #10
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After installing FF 1.0 via apt-get on Sarge unstable and Sun java 1.5 manually, I get lockups on sites with java applets 4 out of 5 times. Mozilla works fine.
 
Old 11-21-2004, 12:13 PM   #11
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Also, dont apt-get it, simply install from mozilla.org, that's how i did it

Ok, but do you want to give me a reason why I should install it that way? apt-get is more convenient for lazy people like me.
 
Old 11-21-2004, 06:14 PM   #12
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apt-get is Garfield compliant; should be used at all times!

Seriously, apt-get should be preferred to all other methods. It's easier to keep track of installed programs and dependencies. Also, one can enjoy the fruits of the Debian patches.
 
  


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