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McCloud 08-31-2005 07:28 PM

I'd like to give some input too.

I was using unstable, but yesterday my OS disc crashed. Luckily my homedirs are on another disc and I copied my important config files a couple of weeks ago. So I bought a new disc, installed the Sarge base system, changed the /etc/apt/sources.list to unstable and that's were the problems begin. Xorg installs fine, but the Gnome meta-package is uninstallable due to missing dependencies. KDE is also a mess at this moment.

So I switched back my sources.list to testing, but because a newer version of apt was installed, Gnome from the testing repository wouldn't install either. So I ended up reinstalling the Sarge base install and switched to testing.

The Xorg transition and KDE are really a mess right now. I want to go to unstable as soon as possible, mainly because of the newer version of Firefox. Normally I just compiled Firefox myselft (apt-get source -b) from SID using the Etch libraries, but that doesn't work because this new Firefox package depends on Xorg packages that aren't in Etch yet.

I just can't do a dist-upgrade to Etch right now because it wants to remove my complete Gnome and KDE installation. I'm gonna try to remove the Gnome meta-package and do dist-upgrade to SID after I've done that.

Dead Parrot 08-31-2005 09:54 PM

Quote:

I want to go to unstable as soon as possible, mainly because of the newer version of Firefox. Normally I just compiled Firefox myselft (apt-get source -b) from SID using the Etch libraries, but that doesn't work because this new Firefox package depends on Xorg packages that aren't in Etch yet.
Anything good is worth waiting for. Xorg should be soon in testing. :)

http://www.livejournal.com/users/gravityboy/18909.html

Btw, if you're running etch, you can get security updates (including the security-patched version of Firefox) by adding this to /etc/apt/sources.list :
Code:

deb http://secure-testing.debian.net/debian-secure-testing etch/security-updates main contrib non-free
EDIT:
Xorg is now in testing. :)

craigevil 08-31-2005 10:58 PM

Firefox 1.0.6 can be installed in Sarge and Etch:
Add the following backport to your sources.list

Backports of various packages for Debian 3.1 Sarge
# Updated versions of Mozilla, Firefox and Thunderbird
# For more information visit http://debian.stdout.at/
deb http://debian.stdout.at/ ./

lucky_dev36 09-05-2005 02:18 AM

I installed Xorg...
 
I uninstalled everything and upgraded base to testing. Installed Xorg, no problems! I use
xdm with twm. (Very basic)

You are having problems?? (Probably cause you tried to install KDE...)

makuyl 09-05-2005 02:47 AM

Well, kde 3.4.2 in unstable is working now but some packages are still missing. Only worth to dist-upgrade if you're feeling adventurous and won't miss the packages it'll remove. Unless you compile from source that is.

lucky_dev36 09-05-2005 11:45 AM

I dont have any packages missing (since I uninstalled everything except my base, before I installed Xorg.)

shorty_boy 09-15-2005 07:45 PM

i decided to give gnome a try again...
 
and i love it. it is so much faster and less resource hungry than kde is on my system (i went to kde because gnome use to do the same thing back in the day). well i think i am going to stick with gnome for a while cause it is hella fast with xorg (which is in testing). Well etch is the ish man.I love my debian woot woot.

lpd 09-16-2005 02:46 PM

I've been using Debian Unstable for a couple of years and I can really confirm that the GCC-4.0 and X.org transition have been the worst period so far. I do have a few tips that will make it easier:

Use 'apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade' for normal day-to-day system maintenance. I used to use 'dselect', I liked that it always asked me before doing stupid things but I grew tired of that it often would suggest the wrong things. (Like updating one minor soundlib at the cost of removing 20-50 applications or half of the X installation.)

Remember to use '--simulate' when you want to try something with 'apt-get', like the weekly or monthly 'apt-get dist-upgrade'.

When you're satisfied with your system, make a total backup!
Use something like 'tar' then burn the tar files on a couple of CDs or DVDs. Reinstalling from tar files is way faster then reinstalling a complete system, especially if you've been using Unstable for a while. Don't forget to backup the '/var' directory like I did once. Not so fun to redo a semi-working 3+ GB installation because I was missing a few 100 MBs of /var.


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