unmet dependancies upgrading to SID

MaTrIx709 · 07-27-2005, 06:26 PM

Okay, so I'm starting to get the hang of linux and the cli, I succesfully upgrade stable->testing->unstable, and then start adding apps.

When I try and install gnome I get this error

Code:

r2d2:/home/gav# apt-get install gnome
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  gnome: Depends: gnome-desktop-environment (= 1:2.10.1.1) but it is not going to be installed
         Depends: gnome-office (= 1:2.10.1.1) but it is not going to be installed
E: Broken packages

So being a bit more experianced, I figure I'd try

Code:

apt-get install gnome-core

This works a treat. I have a basic gnome set up and it seems to be fine.

Is there a fix? or do I just wait a few weeks for the dependancies to be met, and use kde3.3 in the meantime?

<NB>
after installing kde, a lot of gnome 2.10 stuff broke
So I'm now adding individual packages to gnome, and this seems ok, since I dont hit the dependancies this way.

darkleaf · 07-28-2005, 04:47 AM

You're right. There's a dependency problem with gnome. And I'm not really sure but I think I read somewhere the ftpmaster is away for some time (holiday perhaps) but when he's back it should be fixed or so.

The kde and gnome problem could be because of libaspell15c2. This package was an error and the fix would be implemented as soon as the upgrades work again. If you went from etch to sid you could have noticed it. If I run apt-get upgrade:

Quote:

root@debian:~# apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
abiword abiword-common aspell-en gaim gaim-data gaim-dev gedit gedit-common
gksu libgtkspell0 libx11-6 libx11-dev libxp-dev libxp6
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 14 not upgraded.

However when I run apt-get dist-upgrade it will override this and simply remove the packages:

Quote:

root@debian:~# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
abiword abiword-common gaim gaim-dev gaim-themes gedit gnome-core
libgksuui1.0-0
The following NEW packages will be installed:
libgksuui1.0-1 libxau-dev libxkbfile-dev
The following packages have been kept back:
aspell-en libgtkspell0
The following packages will be upgraded:
gaim-data gedit-common gksu libx11-6 libx11-dev libxp-dev libxp6
7 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 8 to remove and 2 not upgraded.

Or is it a different problem? I just installed gnome-core and if I tried kde it didn't give any problems.

That's why I'm waiting with dist-upgrade till the fix. But it's not kde vs. gnome it's that single library that's causing trouble.

darkleaf · 07-28-2005, 04:51 AM

Also I just tried and if you install gnome-core you can start gnome with "startx /usr/bin/gnome-session

MaTrIx709 · 07-28-2005, 05:20 AM

Thanks for the info about the ftpmaster.

Some of what you were saying was beyond my grasp, but it is a problem with libaspell15c2.

Heres what I did.

1) installed gnome-core (since gnome has failed dependancies. I had no problems getting gnome up after login to gdm)
2) install gaim
3) install kde (this somehow un-installed gaim)
4) tried to reinstall gaim (it said libaspell15c2 was not being installed)
5) manually apt-get install libaspell15c2 (this had the undesired effect of un-installing all of kde)

The main reason I wanted to use SID is because this is a spare machine I built and want to play with the latest packages.

would you say this is the best solution (to install gnome-core, then added the 40 or so apps such as themes etc, manually using apt-get). Is this the debian guru solution? Or is there not real functionality advantage of unstable, and should I stick with testing?

darkleaf · 07-28-2005, 05:34 AM

I still have gaim from etch (and the few other programs that have trouble with libaspell15c2). Actually since I haven't done a dist-upgrade yet I'm running mixed etch/sid now with most packages from sid. You already did the dist-upgrade so it's a bit more trouble.

You can pin gaim on etch, cause it doesn't need libaspell15c2 in there.
In your /etc/apt/preferences write this line for gaim only (it could be a bit more trouble if there are more packages cause you have to figure out what to downgrade):

Quote:

Package: gaim
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority:1001

That should downgrade gaim to testing and you can wait for the fix of libaspell.

Sid has the latest packages but it's also the branch where is tested if packages and dependencies are right or have bugs.

I'm not sure about those 40 loose aps. If they're dependent you could try if it installs them immediately and see if it doesn't uninstall kde. Should be doable if you have the libaspell problem away by not using it.

If not could you tell which sort of packages they are?

h2gofast · 08-02-2005, 03:22 PM

I had the same problem but was stuck with gaim-data so in /etc/apt/preferences

Code:

Package: gaim
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority:1001

Package: gaim-data
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority:1001

this worked.

craigevil · 08-03-2005, 01:17 AM

Running Gnome2.10 and KDE3.3.2 both with no problems. Still using GAIM1.3.1.

It took a couple of tries to get the Gnome update correct. Had to uninstall a couple of packages install Gnome then reinstall the packages because Gnome wanted to remove them.