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Old 01-08-2019, 05:21 PM   #1
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Thinkpad T500 debian 9 6 mate buster


Theories why when I tried to install debian 9.6 Mate buster using disc it would fail using the GUI installer. I thought maybe the disc was detective so I redownload mate buster iso same issue.

I got it to finely install using the text based installer. Though it was very slow generating the desktop on the first boot. It runs normally now. The odd thing is I installed debian9.6 buster on my old HP tower with nvidia card and had no issue with the GUI installer.

This is a very different experience than mint and ubuntu.
 
Old 01-08-2019, 07:17 PM   #2
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I've never had the gui installer work for Debian on a laptop myself. I gave up trying.
 
Old 01-08-2019, 08:39 PM   #3
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I tried three times using the GUI. I was planning on installing debian 9.6 cinnamon on my t520. I am going to use the text based but really its a terminal based interface.

Not sure why it was slow on the desktop on the first boot never seen that with a fresh install. The one you tried the official or the buster?
 
Old 01-09-2019, 07:48 AM   #4
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I've done both, mostly Stretch. I reinstall my systems every few months to change around what distro is on what, so I do a LOT of installing.
 
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In my experience, GUI installers are often buggy. Why bother with the GUI installer if the ncurses (text-based) installer works just fine?

Also, it's not unusual for ANY OS to be slow on first boot after installation. It's a fresh system, after all, and it is getting everything "up and running" for the first time.
 
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Yes, Mint18 was that way but it was faster on the rendering of the desktop, why no idea maybe the kernel used? I do not change distributions often. I really like mint [18] for clients but currently the update manager bug has yet not been fixed even with Mint19. I am watching the bug report every six months. That is why I am looking at Debian and maybe Ubuntu 18.04. I compared both Ubuntu 18.04 and Debian gnome desktop software and basically you get some updated software.
 
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You might also consider MX Linux, it's pretty robust and user-friendly, and based on Debian. The installer is easy, too.
 
Old 01-15-2019, 06:53 AM   #8
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Is Debian 9.6 buster release considered a beta version? If so how do I tell its a beta?
 
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Is Debian 9.6 buster release considered a beta version? If so how do I tell its a beta?
Debian 9.6 is "Stretch," not "Buster," and it is the current stable release of Debian:

https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/

"Buster" is Debian "testing":

https://www.debian.org/releases/testing/
 
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I am going to have to learn how to download the wifi firmware onto a USB before installing. I did not understand busters were testing.
 
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They have a non-free iso that has a lot of the firmware on it, you can try that.
 
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Ok I found the firmware images. Lets see if I understand this list

http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/un...mware/stretch/

I would think I would download the stretch current is this correct?

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Ok I found the firmware images. Lets see if I understand this list

http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/un...mware/stretch/

I would think I would download the stretch current is this correct?

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The firmware, yes, not the whole Debian installer.
 
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Back when I first tried Debian I downloaded stretch 9.6 but it failed to install due to the wifi card firmware. Coming from Mint or Ubuntu the firmware not being included threw me off now, I get it. I found the documentation for how to use an USB stick and have the firmware on it and plugged in so the installer can find it.
Still think buster for a testing branch is a odd name.
 
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Back when I first tried Debian I downloaded stretch 9.6 but it failed to install due to the wifi card firmware. Coming from Mint or Ubuntu the firmware not being included threw me off now, I get it. I found the documentation for how to use an USB stick and have the firmware on it and plugged in so the installer can find it.
Still think buster for a testing branch is a odd name.

All Debian branches are based on characters from the movie Toy Story. Buster was the dog that the boy got as his christmas present.
 
  


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