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Old 06-14-2012, 08:38 AM   #1
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Skype Nox for Console?


Hello,

Skype is far more known and used than SIP. Wanna keep contact with relatives.

Could Debian propose a trick to use SKYPE, if possible..., without installing X11?

thank you very much
 
Old 06-14-2012, 09:10 AM   #2
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Just a suggestion, since I can't confirm it will work.

Install finch and pidgin-skype. Finch is the ncurses version of pidgin and pidgin-skype is some pidgin plugin that connects you to the skype network. Of course, it needs skype to be installed, because you will have to set the path to skype executable. And this can be tackled by downloading the skype standalone .tar.gz and extracting it somewhere.

I am tempted to give it a shot now :P
 
Old 06-15-2012, 02:51 PM   #3
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Just a suggestion, since I can't confirm it will work.

Install finch and pidgin-skype. Finch is the ncurses version of pidgin and pidgin-skype is some pidgin plugin that connects you to the skype network. Of course, it needs skype to be installed, because you will have to set the path to skype executable. And this can be tackled by downloading the skype standalone .tar.gz and extracting it somewhere.

I am tempted to give it a shot now :P
Thank you. I thought abotu that too. But I think that pidgin is slightly too much for a server.

Do you know if we can recode and re-use the libs of pidgin-skype to make a PURE SKYPE NOX for the CLI (with a very small footprint) for headless servers ?
 
Old 06-16-2012, 02:07 AM   #4
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The main reason to use skype is for video chatting, having a cli version would make no sense.

Anyway Skype is owned by Microsoft feel free to email them your suggestion.

Haven't a clue if this works but might be worth a look:
Clisk, the Command-Line Interface for Skype : http://www.for-the-people.com/dlee/www/skype/clisk/
 
Old 06-16-2012, 03:02 AM   #5
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I believe that all these solutions (pidging-skype and clisk) rely on a running instance of Skype and, in order to run Skype, you need X11 up and running.
 
Old 06-16-2012, 09:27 AM   #6
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I believe that all these solutions (pidging-skype and clisk) rely on a running instance of Skype and, in order to run Skype, you need X11 up and running.
I was thinnk too teh same ... indeed

...

and to install Skype, then you would need X11 and gtk/kde or whatever Skype installation requires. So it cannot be done on a server

Is it correct?


Or... maybe a beautiful linux trick somehow possible to avoid installing all x11 stuffs on a server?
 
Old 06-16-2012, 09:57 AM   #7
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Skype relies on the Qt framework, which in turn relies on X11 on *NIX systems.
The show-stopper here is not the required X11 server installation per se, but the fact that you need a running X server to successfully launch and run a Skype instance which is needed by those third-party programs.
You could workaround this limitation on your server by installing Skype (and the relative CLI interface) on a client machine inside your local server network and then connecting to it via ssh from your server. This way you wouldn't touch anything on the server side as you'd only need to connect to a client machine which is already running X.
 
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Skype relies on the Qt framework, which in turn relies on X11 on *NIX systems.
The show-stopper here is not the required X11 server installation per se, but the fact that you need a running X server to successfully launch and run a Skype instance which is needed by those third-party programs.
You could workaround this limitation on your server by installing Skype (and the relative CLI interface) on a client machine inside your local server network and then connecting to it via ssh from your server. This way you wouldn't touch anything on the server side as you'd only need to connect to a client machine which is already running X.

well fake x11 in background either would be possible. and run skype.


The deb has a /usr/bin/skype. well, it seems that skype does not give opensource libs for allowing to use C++. It seems that there is no workaround.

To avoid having friends with Skype, that's maybe a solution ? -no

pitty that it would not work ... idea was great
 
Old 06-16-2012, 04:52 PM   #9
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Not sure what you mean by "opensource libs for allowing to use C++"... You can target SkypeKit API to develop third-party applications relying on Skype for their functionality. However I think that runtime still requires a running Skype instance, so you'd still need a X server up and running.
What do you mean by fake x11 in background?
 
Old 06-17-2012, 06:49 AM   #10
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Not sure what you mean by "opensource libs for allowing to use C++"... You can target SkypeKit API to develop third-party applications relying on Skype for their functionality. However I think that runtime still requires a running Skype instance, so you'd still need a X server up and running.
What do you mean by fake x11 in background?
maybe there are so api that does not skype x11 running instance in the background... let s hope
 
Old 06-18-2012, 08:24 AM   #11
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There has been talk about this wonder skype lib that can be used by other applications for a long time but nothing happened.
Probably Skype wants to keep everything for themselves. Its a proprietary network, they can do anything they like with it.

offtopic:
If you dont like it, use Google talk or something, they let other apps to integrate their services (Pidgin, Empathy, Jitsi all work with it with no third party proprietary modules).
 
Old 06-19-2012, 11:46 AM   #12
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There has been talk about this wonder skype lib that can be used by other applications for a long time but nothing happened.
Probably Skype wants to keep everything for themselves. Its a proprietary network, they can do anything they like with it.

offtopic:
If you dont like it, use Google talk or something, they let other apps to integrate their services (Pidgin, Empathy, Jitsi all work with it with no third party proprietary modules).
well, the problem is that no one, or very little, use sthg else than skype. Linux has to follow up. Ekiga or google talk, asterisk, are not so much considered.

Colleagues use skype, relatives use skype, ... so why to communicate alone with your google talk or voip sip, since the world is not going to change in few years like that. will take many years and you ll miss your relatives, friends, contacts...

Linux ought to adapt the possibilities, work on it. It is definitely very possible to use a workaround to make skype more integrated with Linux. Definitely. We, Linux, came across many more larger problems in the past... at its early beginning. X11 or x11-daemon could be used, - actually works well, running x11 skype like normally. You can type:

xterm -e skype login/passwd and you get it running...
 
  


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