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Old 03-19-2018, 05:58 PM   #1
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Question Should I upgrade Wheezy to Stretch?


My main media/fileserver is a SFF PC (Atom 230 1Gb ram) running Debian 7 (wheezy).

Is it worth upgrading to the latest version (Stretch)? If so, should I upgrade to Jessie first, then to stretch, or just go straight over.

It's not doing anything exotic - Logitech media server is my only concern given its age and lack of support from Logitech.

Everything kinda works right now, though there's a load of niggles I need to sort.

Am I likely to see much improvement?
 
Old 03-19-2018, 08:28 PM   #2
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Yes you certainly could upgrade.
I'm not sure if you can upgrade from wheezy to stretch or not:-

I personally don't do upgrades. Instead I always perform a fresh installtion of the distribution. That way it's a lot less messy and your fresh install runs good.

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Old 03-19-2018, 11:21 PM   #3
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I certainly would since Wheezy is no longer supported with security updates. At least update to Jessie since it's still getting security updates for a little longer.
 
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Old 03-20-2018, 02:02 AM   #4
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if you decide to do the upgrade, you have to do it from one stable version to the next:

wheezy => jessie
...then see if everything is still working, and if it does:
jessie => stretch

but i think t miller has a point.
 
Old 03-20-2018, 05:07 AM   #5
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Definitely upgrade. It's best to do a clean install to Stretch. Having used Jessie myself, I would advise you to use Stretch: it's already on 9.4 and very stable, as well as that it's slightly easier to configure than Jessie.
 
Old 03-20-2018, 06:24 AM   #6
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As you see, the opinions are mixed for upgrade vs new install.

It is easier to upgrade. But you have to go wheezy => jessie => stretch. Be prepared that it can fail and you should make new installation.

Majority of failures I have seen with upgrades is that some dependency fails. You can try to uninstall the offending package but often it has a zillion packages depending on it. When I see the dependency monster showing up it is a sign the upgrade will fail.

IF you decide to re-install, one of the biggest headaches is the users, copying the home directories and keeping the correct ownerships. Be prepared.

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Old 03-24-2018, 02:41 AM   #7
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Thanks all. The consensus seems to be going from Wheezy to Jessie first.

I'm a little nervous about the user issue, as it's all a bit chaotic at the moment, however it may be an opportunity to get my head around it properly. I just need to make sure that the home directories are backed up offline (there's only two critical ones, but one is my wife's work stuff!)

Once I've successfully got to Jessie, I'll feel more confident about stepping up to stretch.
 
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Thanks all. The consensus seems to be going from Wheezy to Jessie first.

I'm a little nervous about the user issue, as it's all a bit chaotic at the moment, however it may be an opportunity to get my head around it properly. I just need to make sure that the home directories are backed up offline (there's only two critical ones, but one is my wife's work stuff!)

Once I've successfully got to Jessie, I'll feel more confident about stepping up to stretch.
Just go slow, think about what you are doing before you do it, take one step at a time and you will get it done.

Good luck and have a good weekend:-
 
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I would suggest that you pull off an automatic list of all the packages that are installed on the present system now. Then, upgrade to the new release. Finally, tell it to reinstall all the packages from the list you made.
 
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Old 03-24-2018, 03:53 PM   #10
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I would suggest that you pull off an automatic list of all the packages that are installed on the present system now. Then, upgrade to the new release. Finally, tell it to reinstall all the packages from the list you made.
Good advice to any normal person, but I'm confident I've installed stuff I don't need or use (motion for example) so I think I'm better off making a list of what I need, rather than what's there already. I figure dependencies will sort themselves out so I shouldn't be left wanting too much.
 
Old 03-26-2018, 12:56 AM   #11
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Good advice to any normal person, but I'm confident I've installed stuff I don't need or use (motion for example) so I think I'm better off making a list of what I need, rather than what's there already. I figure dependencies will sort themselves out so I shouldn't be left wanting too much.

Did the upgrade go well?
 
Old 03-26-2018, 03:48 AM   #12
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Did the upgrade go well?
HA!

Thanks for asking.

I've not actually managed to do it yet.

Prudence suggests I back up the whole system, and funnily enough it takes a little while to copy 1Tb of mostly media across a network when your link speed is only 100Mbps

Family obligations mean that I usually only have the evenings to perform such tasks, and unfortunately the brown stuff hit the fan at work on friday afternoon, so I had to spend one evening doing 'real' work.

Fingers crossed I'll get some time this week, eh?
 
Old 03-26-2018, 07:12 PM   #13
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HA!

Thanks for asking.

I've not actually managed to do it yet.

Prudence suggests I back up the whole system, and funnily enough it takes a little while to copy 1Tb of mostly media across a network when your link speed is only 100Mbps

Family obligations mean that I usually only have the evenings to perform such tasks, and unfortunately the brown stuff hit the fan at work on friday afternoon, so I had to spend one evening doing 'real' work.

Fingers crossed I'll get some time this week, eh?
I get it:-
Life can be really busy sometimes.

Good Luck-
 
Old 03-27-2018, 03:49 PM   #14
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I've done the physical bit: server has been extracted from the loft (much to the dismay of the resident spiders) and is happily chuntering to itself under my desk, so I can access it directly rather than via ssh. Decided to postpone the upgrade until the weekend as I'll have a few days off work (as will the wife, who stores her work on it).
 
  


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