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Old 04-09-2007, 11:37 PM   #1
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seeking advice/opinions on Compiz versions/install methods (for Debian)

the preamble I can't keep myself from posting
I recently started using Beryl (the last RC before 0.2.0 was the first version I used), and had been anxiously awaiting the Wall plugin's arrival in an actual non-svn/git release. With the (Compiz/Beryl)merge it seems likely that that may never happen, and as Beryl is essentially now a defunct project, I've been looking at running Compiz.

A day or two before Etch went stable, I installed Compiz 0.3.6 from experimental and got as far as loading it as KDE's WM and finding that configuration-by-gconf (and to some degree the command-line plugin loading) is, IMNSHO, annoying and tedious (if I had to guess, I'd say that was at least 90% of the reason Beryl destroys(err destroyed) Compiz in apparent popularity), and finding that 0.3.6 is definitely not the version I'm most interested in (which would be a version with Beryl Project work included). After not finding any configuration tools alternate to gconf that didn't have to be compiled on their own(read: weren't included with Compiz itself), I went back to Beryl for the time being.

the actual questions
So what I'd like to ask is, does anyone have an inkling when a version of Compiz with former-Beryl-Project contributions might make it into experimental? Or would I(or rather my patience) be better served by grabbing the current progress from the git repository? And if that's the case, do I really want to eschew APT for Compiz (the part of me that wants the Wall plugin does I can tell you)? I'm mostly concerned about compiling and installing only to find down the road that I've got Compiz files scattered everywhere that I can't easily remove. Can anything that gets "make install"ed get "make uninstall"ed(is make uninstall a universal option)? I assume updates (from the git repo) just overwrite previous versions? Would grabbing the 0.5.0 source tarball be a better route? Does that include the compiz-extra package with the ported beryl plugins and settings tool(s)?

If I did go the git route, which (Debian)package would I want to get that done? git-svn or git-cvs, or something else?

If I compiled 0.5.0 or the git version, would I just find one of these in experimental in a couple weeks anyway?

Last edited by lurko; 04-09-2007 at 11:40 PM.
Old 04-10-2007, 06:41 PM   #2
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If your lucky, the compiz you compile installs to /user/local which makes it easy to find.

If not, you can try adding a prefix option for that.
Old 04-11-2007, 02:19 AM   #3
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the docs I've browsed thus far suggest configuring with /usr as the prefix unfortunately.

I managed to dig up a thread on the compiz forums with (relatively)current progress snapshots of the extra plugins, one copy compatible with the current git, and one compatible with 0.5.0.

I guess my question asking skills are pretty sad huh. After doing more lurking at, I've decided not to install the current progress from their git repository, too many comments about this and that not working as this and that had worked before and the like.

So does anyone think it's worth the trouble of building 0.5.0? Or am I just going to find it in experimental in a couple weeks?

Is "make uninstall" an option with every source package? Or does the author have to make a point to include it? Or maybe a better question is does Compiz include a "make unistall" option in the source package?


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