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Old 09-08-2009, 12:24 PM   #61
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Yes, the trooper has a point there. Debian supports, and has done for years, many more architectures than Slackware. Slackware has only recently added x86_64 and ARM, so now it has four: those two plus x86 and 390.
 
Old 09-08-2009, 12:34 PM   #62
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Here's a quote from the Lenny install manual:

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However, Debian GNU/Linux lenny will not run on 386 or earlier processors. Despite the architecture name "i386", support for actual 80386 processors (and their clones) was dropped with the Sarge (r3.1) release of Debian[2]. (No version of Linux has ever supported the 286 or earlier chips in the series.) All i486 and later processors are still supported[3].
So i'd say its possible to run a 486 processor with Debian.

Also see the following link for the other hardware requirements:

http://www.debian.org/releases/stabl...h03s04.html.en

From what i can see the ram is going to be more problematic than the processor.

Edit:Reading Farslayer's previous post,even this amount of ram should be doable.

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Old 09-08-2009, 01:51 PM   #63
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Here's a quote from the Lenny install manual:



So i'd say its possible to run a 486 processor with Debian.

Also see the following link for the other hardware requirements:

http://www.debian.org/releases/stabl...h03s04.html.en

From what i can see the ram is going to be more problematic than the processor.

Edit:Reading Farslayer's previous post,even this amount of ram should be doable.
yeah but the idea is to use it...
or well I could use it DEBIAN to spend time waiting ...
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Old 09-08-2009, 01:57 PM   #64
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Universal?
Even better, maybe I can try to install Woody on that machine. I even have 2 floppy disks on my machine

I still have the floppy disks somewhere, but dont know if I can replace the system by a linux. That's a portable computer, I recall, it's written on it.

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Old 09-08-2009, 02:24 PM   #65
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I still think you should try Slackware 11.
 
Old 09-08-2009, 02:45 PM   #66
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Universal?
Is there a linux distro that can run on more architectures than Debian?

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Even better, maybe I can try to install Woody
I thought you already had installed Woody?.
Did you even attempt to install Lenny?.

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I still think you should try Slackware 11
The longer this thread goes on the more i'm inclined to agree Brian.......
 
Old 09-08-2009, 02:51 PM   #67
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I still think you should try Slackware 11.
It's dangerous. What to do if I like it?
And concerning repositories, it's very few packages compared to debian, no? Slackware community is smaller than debian.

You tempt me, I think I can give a try this weekend.
A new converted??

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It took very very look to install lenny, after 30min - 1hour, I cancelled it. I had etch before, and it was so slow. I had fluxbox.

I managed to install woody, its fast, but not secured and maintained. But but

kernel suc*ks from backports for my pcmcia card : no internet
but I have usb.

What to do wihtout internet nowadays? I am sure slackware will work. The slackware x.1 something was working on that pc, with the pcmcia card, years ago.

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The longer this thread goes on the more i'm inclined to agree Brian.......
come on, your fervent user of Debian?? No really, you decline to slackware, ... where is your faith??

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Old 09-08-2009, 03:11 PM   #68
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True, Slackware has fewer packages available than Debian, but can you still get suitable packages for your old Debian? I've just checked the SlackBuild site, using the drop-down menu there shows they have stuff for 11.

http://slackbuilds.org/
http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=&sv=11.0

That's one possible site for Slackware packages

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Old 09-08-2009, 03:24 PM   #69
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Frenchnoob,

If Slackware 11 works for you on this machine,go with it.
Any Linux is better than none.

If it was me,i'd do my best to get Lenny running.
Failing that i'd then look to alternatives.

It's your choice,no one will mind if you run Slackware.
Not even me,and i'm a confirmed 'Debianite'
 
Old 09-08-2009, 03:32 PM   #70
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Yeah, follow the trooper's advice. Try to get the latest Debian you can running. Farslayer in post #2 says he's had Etch running on 32MB RAM, so it's possible. And, if all else fails, go for Slack 11.
 
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True, Slackware has fewer packages available than Debian, but can you still get suitable packages for your old Debian? I've just checked the SlackBuild site, using the drop-down menu there shows they have stuff for 11.

http://slackbuilds.org/
http://slackbuilds.org/result/?search=&sv=11.0

That's one possible site for Slackware packages
Man, its crazy, slackware still has those root and boot disks like 20y ago.
Amazing. So old, nothign changed since 3.1
http://www.slackware.com/install/rootdisk.php

Funny slack. No wrinkles, always the same. Was cool.

I dont know, what is better debian or slack? I try back this weekend, slack, I promise. It s scary, slack is like UNIX. Slakc is not LINUX, all commands are so different than Debianm. I will have to relearn all from beginning , scary scary, to reistnall all again Are the packages more stable and less buggy than debian stable?
Well sure not like ubuntu, where nothing work, all crashes all the time, cuz sid based. I liked/loved that slack book, many years, like sittnig always in my library, and still slackware exists. Slack was the beginning of Linux, Slack came with and by LINUS Torvald, from Finland, cold country where seasons are all out of time. There is nothing to do there, cold, dark, no summer, so he had to code a lot
Hence why Slackware is not the most famous distro, why it didnt remain the most famous one? Is there btw a famous Linux distro nowaday? When we talk about Linux, shall one distro come first? Eventually Debian, but I start to have doubts about Debian, although it is a multiplatform one and provide huge quantity of precompiled packages, less buggy than Ubuntu for sure, but other distro?
I think that the best world would be to go for BSD or MAC OS X, where one can enjoy powerful apps like adobe world, but its not free, you cant install an apps simply like :
apt-get install myneededapp
in few secs. Who could dream about such repositories, simplicity, nowdays where everything is money. Everything daily is seeking how to get money out of everybody in the street, no remorse, no care about their future... So Linux is free, simple, powerful and opensource has so good on this planet, which cannot go forward, struggling with politics that do completely "nothing" almost.

I want a distro that will exist in 30years.
Debian can be erased by ubuntu (which is crappy, no rules, no politics)
Slackware has not developers.
Fedora, forget, you need to work in informatics, to compile everythg ur own cuz no repos.
Well there nothing else. Suse, ok, forget about it, it's rpm based.
One find more deb for debian than rpm world, and debian/ubuntu have superb forums for wiki.

LInux is damn hard to install daemon and routers, if you havent help. So no wiki, forget anything about using it for like servers.

And finally, kernels are violently slow, and bug of lack of modules.
To install a pc, you have to try 20 distros. Come on, what a loooooose of time Linux. Finally you get one distro that can handle your hardware, most of it work, its pain to get all working with any distros.
So Linux is doomed.

And has no voice recognition + console voip program to talk to my server in my car, while driving.

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but at least better than windows

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Old 09-11-2009, 04:47 AM   #72
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Man, its crazy, slackware still has those root and boot disks like 20y ago.
Amazing. So old, nothign changed since 3.1
http://www.slackware.com/install/rootdisk.php
Oh, yes, a lot has changed since 3.1.
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I dont know, what is better debian or slack? I try back this weekend, slack, I promise. It s scary, slack is like UNIX. Slakc is not LINUX, all commands are so different than Debianm. I will have to relearn all from beginning , scary scary, to reistnall all again Are the packages more stable and less buggy than debian stable?
Yes, they are different. But Slack is as Linux as Debian. And it's just as stable as Debian stable, even though the kernel and everything are newer releases.
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Slackware has not developers.
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