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KezzerDrix 04-05-2005 05:21 PM

Question about possible migration
Currently I use Mandrake, I have had troubles updating it and program crashes. I am considering switching to Debian. I use my computer as a desktop pc and I am considering the SID install because I want cutting edge more than stability. I am sure it will be "Stable" enough for me. The question I am getting at is the Ubuntu question or more appropriatly for me the Kubuntu question. Isn't ubuntu/kubuntu the same as Debian just upgraded to the fullest. Also I heard the package list is more limited in Ubuntu than Debian. I kind of think Debian SID, would be more Stable than messing with Kubuntu and trying to get it the way I want.

What say u?


Moloko 04-05-2005 05:38 PM

Ubuntu is nothing like Debian. There are lots of differences in the system. If you're comfortable configuring yourself use Debian by all means. It can be difficult at times, but is very solid. Ubuntu is nice for newbies I guess, I find it kind of annoying as a long time Debian user.

Don't use unstable, lots of things change and break. Testing is a safer choice for starters and people who don't want to administer their system daily. Testing is not very exiting right now as Sarge is about to freeze pending the new testing release Etch.

KezzerDrix 04-05-2005 05:43 PM

when you say configure yourself, do you just mean installing the programs I want and configuring kde the way I want it?

Moloko 04-05-2005 06:11 PM

I mean installing and configuring the system, load the kernel modules, configure networking from the console, get sound working etc.

Installing software is extremely easy in Debian, installing however is a big hurdle for many.

mjrich 04-05-2005 08:41 PM

With unstable, and occasionally with testing (when it isn't about to be frozen), you need to be able/willing to fix things when they break.

This means being able to recognise what's "actually happened" when you're presented with a blank screen or a script stuck in an infinite loop etc. etc. and be able to recover it without resorting to a fresh install each time.



webvandals 04-08-2005 11:11 AM

I just have to chime in here. I've been using Debian SID for about a year now and I absolutely love Debian and apt-get. But of course there are always the little bits that don't work or take a *lot* of time to get working. Then there's the fact that even in SID, it can sometimes take the Debian crew quite a while to get new packages in there. (Xorg? KDE 3.4? Gnome 2.10? )

I took Kubuntu for a test drive a few days ago and I can honestly say that I've never been this impressed with any Linux distro. Everything works! Defaults are very sensible, desktop is attractive (KDE 3.4), and it boots up literally twice as fast as my Debian install did. I know I know, I could have tweaked it and improved that if I wanted to dedicate an entire evening to that.

The feeling I get coming into Kubuntu from Debian is that it's pretty much the same experience but with a lot more polish and refinement.

My .02 cents ;-)

Moloko 04-08-2005 11:45 AM


Xorg? KDE 3.4? Gnome 2.10?
Won't happen untill Etch is in place I guess. Putting them in Sid now could accidentially trigger a transfer to Sarge, which would lead to more delays. It happened before with KDE 3.3.2.

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