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Old 01-28-2005, 02:03 PM   #1
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Progeny Debian? What's it all about?


I don't seem to find a lot info about Progeny Debian 2.0 in simple language (the website is full of tech language). I am downloading to see for myself if it's something I can use.

What are the pros and cons of this distro?
 
Old 01-28-2005, 02:33 PM   #2
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I follow the developers mailing list for Progeny. The main advantage is that is uses the Anaconda installer from Red Hat to install Debian. Anaconda is graphical and some may argue easier than the Sarge installer. However, I personally think the Sarge installer is easy enough, more flexible, and has fewer bugs. The real reason to use Progeny is if you want to create a custom linux distribution, that is why it has tech language targeted to developers. It aims to make it easy to add or remove components of the distribution, then create your own custom distribution.
 
Old 01-28-2005, 02:44 PM   #3
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Ok that's sounds like fun! I have always dreamed of making my own distro. So this maybe the way? I will have to start reading to see how to do this.

Thanks for the reply.
 
Old 01-29-2005, 08:04 AM   #4
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I've got Progeny Debian installed a couple of months ago. Java & Mono works out of the box. Unfortunately, it couldn't "see" my other partitions on my second hard drive, been looking help for a while with no luck and decided to convert back to Debian Sid.
 
Old 01-29-2005, 01:41 PM   #5
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Well I installed it and recognized all my distros. I like the grahics. Looks better than Debian! I'll probably remove it and use it later when I have time.
 
Old 02-11-2005, 12:41 AM   #6
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Unhappy Ethernet

I just installed Progeny and it looks interesting, but it didn't detect my onboard ethernet.

I can't figure out how to get an internet connection setup.

I would appreciate some suggestions.

Thanks, zoey
 
Old 02-11-2005, 03:38 AM   #7
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Try "ifconfig -a" to verify that Progeny actually hasn't detected your eth0.

If that indeed is the case, then you can use (after you've used the "su" command to become the root user) the "modprobe" command to load the necessary kernel module for your netcard (modprobe module_name). If you don't know the name of the correct module, you can search it from Internet using the google search engine. The "modprobe" command will load the module only for the current session, but you can add the module's name to the end of the /etc/modules file to ensure that it will be loaded every time you boot your system.

Once you've got the right module for your netcard loaded, you can check out the following document to see how to configure the actual net connection: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/re...tml#s-net-high
 
Old 02-11-2005, 09:29 AM   #8
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Thanks, Dead Parrot,

Progeny did not recognize the ethonet and bash didn't like the modprobe command.

Thank you for attempting to get me on the right track.

I dumped Progeny and installed Ubuntu, which found ethonet with no problem, and is now busily downloading packages to complete the installation.

My motherboard is a MSI K7N2 Delta 2 with integrated sound and etho and a lot of distros don't recognize the etho and I have yet to find one that recognizes the sound. Maybe it is just a weird motherboard!

zoey
 
Old 02-11-2005, 11:30 AM   #9
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Strange, I have an MSI K7N2G and Debian and Libranet set up networking with no problem. Your board uses the module "forcedeth" for networking. The forcedeth module has been included since kernel version 2.4.24 or 2.4.25 I think. If progeny is using an older kernel, that would be a problem. Previous versions of the kernel without the forcedeth module required compiling a proprietary network driver from Nvidia.

By the way, the "modprobe" command has to be run as root. It should otherwise work.

Good luck with Ubuntu. I think it is pretty nice. It beats Debian in desktop/laptop usability.
 
Old 02-11-2005, 03:51 PM   #10
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Thanks m_yates,

I was running modprobe as root, but I no doubt typed something in incorrectly. Bash and I have had a love/hate relationship since I started running Linux last August .

The motherboard is on a new computer that I built myself, just to see if I could do it. I have added a soundcard so now I have sound with ubuntu. I have tried about 6 other distros and ubuntu is the only one that connected to the net with no problems. Even mepis, which I am running on my other computer [with gnome instead of kde], didn't find the net and it is pretty good about detecting video, sound, etc.

I should be making cookies, I suppose since I am a whitehaired grandmother/type, but I would rather play with my computers!

Thanks again, zoey
 
Old 02-11-2005, 05:58 PM   #11
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Your welcome I built my own computer also. You learn a lot by building one and installing Debian
 
Old 07-27-2005, 01:17 AM   #12
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problem with Progeny and laptop video

Well, I tried Progeny on my T22. Many distros worked OK and I was playing around....After I installed it I couldn't figure out why I had this huge 'X' dead center on my screen. It's the 'X' that pops up with some distros while loading the desktop but it NEVER WENT AWAY! No matter what app I opened there was this big 'X' so I gave up, and installed PCLinuxOS again. It still bugs me why this happened, but so many distros work for me that I just dumped Progeny and thought I'd wait for the next release and try again. The version was 3.0, BTW.
I guess I expected better from Ian Murdock, the developer of the original Debian Project!!!!!!!!!!!
 
  


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