Problem with Debian Installation!
 

I did the stuff in the article saying Post Install Configuration for Debian.....

I currently have the Debian 3.0 r4 Woody (7+2 update Cds) .

I tried installing DEbian on my computer, and everything worked fine.

But, I am not able to get running the X window manager!

So, NO KDE AND NO GNOME.

I did read each and everything at the starting.....I read some posts that Debian forces us to learn etc......SO i wasn't skipping anything.....But, Finally due to my Laziness, I skipped some part of the configuration screens....

Then, I read the article regarding the post - install configuration for Debian, and
decided to re-run the configuration.

#dpkg-reconfigure........etc.

I finally entered all the necessary information (After the reconfiguration too, I am not able to run the X display manager.

I am not able to tell you the full login screen details....(they are very complicated and too lengthy for me to type!)





I am using Kernel 2.2 (I don't remember the exact no. right now....it is the conventional one.)
I have a LG Flatron Monitor with Max Resolution of 1280*1024 and
S3 Graphics Pro Savage DDR (ON board Video Card, which shares Video Memory with my RAM)

I get these errors at the last......


(--) Assigning device section with no bus ID to primary device (EE)
NO DEvices detected.

Fatal SErver Error.
NO Screens found.

Your graphics chip probably isn't supported.
You need to find out what chip exactly you have by doing a
Mine displays this
Then you must take the PCI bus ID from the front (0000:01:00.0) and do an
This will give you something like
This tells you that your chip is a 0110 - yours is gonna read something different of course.

Now go to http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html and see if your chip is supported.

What version of XFree does Woody ship with?

Thanks for your reply.

I tried the stuff that you have mentioned.....but couldn't do it properly.


what is that "l" in between.

well, i tried "l", but no luck.

after trying that out, it gave me options, for entering the syntax properly.

Is there anything i have done wrong?

Moreover, the Xfree Version is seem to use is this one (If i am wrong about the numbers provided, plz tell me where can i find it!)

Xfree86.0

It's a "pipe" symbol -- not to be confused with a lower case L :)

On your keyboard, it may look like two short vertical lines, one above the other; possibly accessed via Shift - backslash. (Man pipe, to get an idea of what it does).

Cheers,

mj

yeah...Thanks.....

I will now try that....

Is that version of XFree appropriate?

I tried the stuff, and got the following output.

01.00.0 VGA compatible controller
S3 Inc. Unknown device 8d04 (prog-if 00[VGA])

01.00.0 class 0.00.5333:8d04



What is that , and what am i required to do with that?



Yeah....I found that my Video card is compatible. (at least, it was there on the list)
it is

s3 graphics Pro savage DDR.

try to autoconfigure the user interface

Last time i had tried

I had got some error.

i will try that one that you have specified.

i will be back in a few min with my results.HOLD ON.

I tried


And got the following output. (This is not the complete output as it is not possible to type it completely.
THis are just the last messages that I get.


What is the mistake that i am making?

Should i reinstall?

But are you sure that reinstalling will work?

Well, you could manually edit your /etc/X11/XF86Config file, or you could run anAnother option would be to boot up a copy of Knoppix, and then (assuming that it comes up with X and Kde) copy across the XF86Config file that it creates. There's usually little point in doing a fresh install with Debian, as it was designed to be seamlessly upgraded anyway.

Cheers,

mj

try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86

This is actually a very good idea if you can't come up with a proper XF86config!

Now, 01.00.0 class 0.00.5333:8d04 also tells you that the ID of your chip is 8d04 and this one is listed as supported by XFree86 4.3, but Woody ships with 4.1.

What I would do in your place is either apt-get dist-upgrade your install until you hit Sarge or Sid, both come with XFree86 4.3 anyway but Sid is a little more bleeding edge.
All it takes is a some additional sources in your /etc/apt/sources.list.

I don't understand why anyone would install Woody on a desktop machine anymore anyway, you can download full iso's of Sarge or you can do a Netinstall ...

I am just a quite of a Newbie.....

I got my Debian Woody CDs from a Frnd.....and would like to try Debian out.

I know that Sarge is the latest version.....But I too know that it is not yet stable completely.

It is still under development.

I will surely try Sarge out.....But ......after a few weeks.....when its quite stable.....

I will try the stuff that you all guys have told me to do.

Thanks.

I have got those 2 Update Cds as well.

How can I make use of them?

I mean.....do they contain the latest kernel?

Do they contain the new X Server?....I mean the X Free 86

:) I know Sarge -testing can be a frightening name, I used to feel the same about it.
But you can take my word for it, I'm using Sid - unstable and it's far more stable than anything else linux I've used in the past 4 years, includiding the Red Hats, Suses, Mandrake/ivas, Yopers, Libranets, etc ....

Go grab yourself a netinstall image of Sarge, apt-get dist-upgrade it to unstable and be a happy Debian user ;)

Yes, this will surely get your X running

No, stay with sarge. sid (...nigbhorhood's bad boy...) will sooner or later get you into trouble.

Would would it have to be like that?
Sid is really no more bleeding edge than let's say Fedora Core 3, on the contrary.

I understand that it's labelled "unstable" because of the way Debian is built and maintained but even the "unstable" version is a lot more stable than all the rest of the "major" distributions out there!

Yeah.....thanks for the post.

I will surely try Sarge.....but but but....:(


My Internet connection is so slow...that it will take weeks....to download and install it......

Surely, I will prefer Cds.

But what about my Woody Cds?

I did not yet understand what is the use of those UPDATE CDs?

I thought they would have some latest stuff....to avoid problems....

I don't know about the update cd's but there are websites where you can purchase all kinds of linux distributions - including Sarge - at a cheap price.
http://www.uselinux.co.uk/product_in...products_id=71 is one of them, I'm sure you could find one near your home if shipment from the UK to India is a problem ...

Thanks for your valuable replies guys....

I finally subscribed to the Debian Mailing Lists.

I found this Question in the FAQs....

S3 Graphics Card was supported with potato (2.2), but doesn't work anymore in X with woody (3.0)

XFree86 4.1.0 as distributed with woody doesn't support the S3 chipset.
Solutions: use the SVGA driver, which will most of the time work. Alternative: install the 3.3.6 version of the X server which is also available in woody, through apt-get install xserver-s3. Another possibility, not recommended, is to get a newer XFree86 repackaged for woody from a non-official repository, see other questions. Note that the latter may not work (it has been reported that some older S3 aren't either supported) and may make your system more difficult to upgrade later.

Problem not yet solved.

I installed the above mentioned X server, but no use.

I was given an option to select from the two.

The version 4.0 and 3.3.6

The version 3.3.6 should have supported my Video Card, But it did not and the same errors again!

Well, time to try the other option I guess
Add this line
deb ftp://boisson.homeip.net/XFree4.3/ ./
to your /etc/apt/sources.list
and apt-get install version 4.3 from there

An apt-get install xserver-xfree86_4.3.0 should do the trick.
Like mentioned in your previous post it's not recommended but this is actually what I would've tried first :)

Thanks.
But I can't access that ftp without logging into my ISP account.
No login, No Internet.

Can i instead download the version, put it on a cd, change the apt source, and install it?

It may not take as long as you think -- with a 56 k modem, you can easily download the Sarge netinstall rc3 iso overnight, and then do the rest of the installation over the next few nights. The only problem would be if you had a winmodem, as you would have to manually find and insert the correct kernel modules.

Anyway, I've done it on a dialup modem before, and it's not as bad as it sounds ;)

Cheers,

mj

You don't need a graphical login to have a connection with internet you know.
During the installation you should have been prompted to configure your NIC, if you have done so you can login at the login prompt and access internet just fine.
Just type your username and your password and you will have access to your entire system from the command line.

From there you can update your system with apt-get no probs!

login
enter your password
su to root
apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade
apt-get install xserver-xfree86_4.3.0

After that hit CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE to restart your x-server.

I've got to voice my thought here about the Sarge vs Sid issue. I could not advise a newbie to run Sid right now. Yes, it's quite stable and has been that way (for the most part) for several months now. There is a reason for this, and that is that the impending freeze (which is now in effect) of Sarge has held up new packages entering Sid, thus kept most weirdness away. When Sarge goes out the door, you can bet your bottom dollar that it won't take Sid long to go into major spasms that I would never subject a newbie too. That would just be mean. There are too many BIG changes coming down the pipe (Xorg, new gnome and kde, libs, etc) that have been in a holding pattern. I would advise someone new to Debian (and especially if they are new to linux alltogether) to install Sarge (using "Sarge" in the repos instead of "testing") as that will allow them to end up stable for a while, let them get their sea legs, then migrate out into Etch (testing) after all the new goodies have been there for at least a couple weeks, to cut down on breakage. Sid should not even be a consideration until the user him(her)self understands what it is, and *why* they want to use it... and that goes double for this particular point in time. The best advice I've heard about Sid is, when you're ready to use it, you won't be asking questions about how to install it, you'll just be using it because you already know how to.

True!