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Old 01-13-2007, 07:21 PM   #1
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Need libc6-2.4, considering ditching debian


I have a machine that has primary job of processing weather data and serving ftp and html. Currently running Debian Sarge.

One of the primary tools I use (NCO tools) needs >= libc6-2.4, which is not available as stable for Debian Sarge.

I tried experimental libc6-2.5 but it broke many things. I managed to get things back to stable libc6 but I'm still unable to install the tools from NCO that I need.

So I'm looking for a new distro. I really like Debian, don't care for Ubuntu (too much sudo).

What is a good distro not too different from Debian but has available the lastest, greatest stable packages (quickly)? I have read that Debian is relatively slow to release new packages in the stable repositories.
 
Old 01-13-2007, 07:38 PM   #2
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As a server, that machine probably isn't affected by the xfree vs xorg bug currently plaguing the desktop user. So I suggest to stick to Debian, but use Etch instead. Simply change all references from sarge/stable to etch in your sources.list, do the familiar apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade and away you go! Be aware that Apache 2 is certainly different from Apache 1.3 so your webserver may go offline.

<edit> Yes, once a Debian distro is declared Stable only security updates are allowed in. Late last summer the original roadmap was to have Etch declared Stable in December, but currently the dev's are still ironing out bugs and hardening it in the RC releases. IIRC the next target date will be either March or June. </edit>

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Old 01-13-2007, 07:57 PM   #3
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I have managed to get kernel 2.6.18-3-686 running and I'm now using xorg without any problem so far.

The big deal to me is getting >= libc6-2.4 . That is a MUST so I can use the new tools from NCO package. I understand Etch is still using libc6-2.3, which is no good for my application.
 
Old 01-13-2007, 08:08 PM   #4
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I see... If you can figure out why that NCO tool needs version 2.4 you may be able to decide if a symlink to 2.3 will suffice or it really needs functionality from 2.4 onwards. (FYI: Experimental uses 2.5, so adding that to the sources.list might help)
 
Old 01-13-2007, 08:28 PM   #5
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Thanks, I hadn't thought of a symlink from 2.3. I'll try it and see if it works. If not it will be easy enough to remove it and go back to the old version of NCO.

BTW, I tried the experimental libc6-2.5 yesterday and it broke several things. Locales was messed up and the tool I'm trying to use (NCO) didn;t function properly. I was able to back up to the stable libc6 and save my system.

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Old 01-14-2007, 01:59 AM   #6
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First of all, I'm not sure why you added "considering ditching debian" to this thread title. Was it so that us Debian users would jump to the resque fearing the distribution would lose such a valuable user as yourself? Please do explain.

Second of all, if you need something more "up to date", give Debian Unstable a shot.
 
Old 01-15-2007, 05:59 AM   #7
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Old 01-15-2007, 07:34 AM   #8
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Regarding Ubuntu "too much sudo":

If you don't like sudo simply don't use it. But first, I don't see what the difference it makes in day to day use since typing sudo -i will give you a real root shell, with all environment variables set as expected. You are root. But if you don't like that don't use it. Set a password for root and that's it. You can allow root SSH logins...You can log in as root, get hacked as root and so on. It's not like sudo makes Ubuntu stand out a lot from other distributions - All modern Linux distributions (and BSD too, of course) support sudo.
 
  


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