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Old 08-07-2009, 02:33 PM   #1
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Need help installing Debian 5.0.2


I need some help with installation.
I have the first 3 CDs of Debian 5.0.2. The first one has KDE.
The problems I have are:
1. I wanted to install all 3CDs, but it would only install the first one.
I used the normal and the expert install.

2. I didn't get the KDE Desktop installed as far as I can see. I had no
menu, or anything on the Desktop.

I would appreciate some help with this.

I also wasn't sure which kernel to choose. I'm using:
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System Information
Manufacturer: Compaq
Product Name: Evo D500
Version:
Serial Number: 6Y25JYFZ309N
This is a pentium 4, 1.7 Ghz processor.

Thanks.
 
Old 08-07-2009, 02:56 PM   #2
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The kde iso has a serious bug. Even if you select to install kde, it ignores it and you just stay with twm and kdm to log you into it.

If you completed the installation, use the disc as a repo and install kde from it using apt.
 
Old 08-07-2009, 03:01 PM   #3
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I would suggest doing the net install if you have an internet connection that's worth it. I myself prefer this because you can then apt-get install whatever you want outside of that. It's always good to start with a base system, then you don't get muck that you don't need. I'd just net-install, reboot, and then run apt-get install kde (or edit sources for squeeze and first do apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade).
 
Old 08-07-2009, 05:07 PM   #4
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I already have the first CD installed.
I haven't experience with Debian or using Apt.
How would I install the Desktop from the CD?

Is the KDE Desktop stable?

Thanks.
 
Old 08-09-2009, 07:55 PM   #5
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I would suggest doing the net install if you have an internet connection that's worth it. I myself prefer this because you can then apt-get install whatever you want outside of that. It's always good to start with a base system, then you don't get muck that you don't need. I'd just net-install, reboot, and then run apt-get install kde (or edit sources for squeeze and first do apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade).
I tried a net install, but still didn't get Kde installed.

First I tried:
Install and used the boot parameters: desktop=kde
and then I tried that as well with the expert install, and chose for
additional packages: desktop environment and standard.

What I get is TWM installed. Is there a way to install kde?

Thanks

Last edited by JosephS; 08-09-2009 at 09:01 PM.
 
Old 08-09-2009, 08:42 PM   #6
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The kde iso has a serious bug. Even if you select to install kde, it ignores it and you just stay with twm and kdm to log you into it.
Gee. That's odd. I had no problem with it.
And I installed from CD1 only.
 
Old 08-09-2009, 08:46 PM   #7
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I tried a net install, but still didn't net Kde installed......

What I get is TWM installed. Is there a way to install kde?
Is KDE not available at the login screen? Check "sessions" menu.
 
Old 08-09-2009, 09:14 PM   #8
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Is KDE not available at the login screen? Check "sessions" menu.
All I get is twm and failsafe as options.

What do I need to do to install KDE?

Thanks.
 
Old 08-09-2009, 09:45 PM   #9
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What do I need to do to install KDE?
Just curious: Did you use graphical install from CD? As I recall there's a screen after the disk setup section that asks (checkboxes) for your install options. KDE was one of those options.

But all that aside, I'd suggest this:
> boot normally into TWM. (TWM is pretty cool, actually, but that's another story. )
> open a terminal, log in as root, then run these commands:
> apt-get update
> apt-get upgrade
> after upgrades finish, reboot the system
> from terminal as root run command:
> apt-get install kde

Good luck.
 
Old 08-10-2009, 06:05 AM   #10
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If you get command line, you should be able to run this as root
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apt-get install kde
as long as you have a network that should run, you might want to install kdm as well (if you want to go straight into kde at boot).

basically the same thing as above

Code:
apt-get install kdm
You could also try just running aptitude and selecting kde through it. I've never liked aptitude, but it is nice because it lists packages and the description.
 
Old 08-10-2009, 12:21 PM   #11
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apt-get install kde
Thanks. I got a Kde desktop

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Originally Posted by rerushg View Post
Just curious: Did you use graphical install from CD? As I recall there's a screen after the disk setup section that asks (checkboxes) for your install options. KDE was one of those options.
In the expert mode at the option to install additional packages, I got
a list of choices which included:
Desktop environment
Standard install
It didn't mention Kde, but when I ran the install, at the boot prompt,
I used desktop=kde.

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(TWM is pretty cool, actually, but that's another story. )
I couldn't figure out how to enlarge the print. It was very
small. Also I couldn't see a way to close some of the programs when
I was done with them.

Last edited by JosephS; 08-11-2009 at 08:24 AM.
 
Old 08-10-2009, 02:43 PM   #12
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Thanks. I got a Kde desktop.
Cool. Glad you're up and running.

It was bugging me so I ran the installer on an old hard disk last night. You're right; it doesn't refer to KDE specifically but it does load it if you have the Lenny+KDE CD. Don't know what happened in your case. Just a glitch, I suppose.

As for TWM, it's been awhile since I've run it so I don't know how it's working these days.

If you're interested in a lighter weight GDM you might try XFCE or LXDE. Both are available in the Lenny repo's.

Good luck.
 
Old 08-10-2009, 07:16 PM   #13
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Cool. Glad you're up and running.

It was bugging me so I ran the installer on an old hard disk last night. You're right; it doesn't refer to KDE specifically but it does load it if you have the Lenny+KDE CD. Don't know what happened in your case. Just a glitch, I suppose.

As for TWM, it's been awhile since I've run it so I don't know how it's working these days.

If you're interested in a lighter weight GDM you might try XFCE or LXDE. Both are available in the Lenny repo's.

Good luck.
I always suggest XFCE, it's lightweight and runs smooth. If you want KDE functions you can always install the libs and the proper programs, although there isn't anything in KDE that's really needed... I know a lot of the auto-config stuff is nice, but you can always set everything in cmd and it helps learn. =P
 
Old 08-10-2009, 08:05 PM   #14
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I always suggest XFCE, it's lightweight and runs smooth. If you want KDE functions you can always install the libs and the proper programs, although there isn't anything in KDE that's really needed... I know a lot of the auto-config stuff is nice, but you can always set everything in cmd and it helps learn. =P
No argument from me. I ran XFCE in Lenny for about a month and found it very comfortable. LXDE (for about a week) was also pretty slick. In the end I went back to KDE for the overall convenience as it costs only about 10-15MB more ram at basic startup.
For newer users I recommend KDE3 with Lenny just because it's so stable and fully featured. That helps with folks coming over from WinWorld and don't want to get all into the "Linux is Pain" thing.
Actually, I think Lenny with either of the managers is as lean as many of the newer distros claiming to be "lightweight", and much less buggy.
 
Old 08-11-2009, 05:24 AM   #15
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No argument from me. I ran XFCE in Lenny for about a month and found it very comfortable. LXDE (for about a week) was also pretty slick. In the end I went back to KDE for the overall convenience as it costs only about 10-15MB more ram at basic startup.
For newer users I recommend KDE3 with Lenny just because it's so stable and fully featured. That helps with folks coming over from WinWorld and don't want to get all into the "Linux is Pain" thing.
Actually, I think Lenny with either of the managers is as lean as many of the newer distros claiming to be "lightweight", and much less buggy.
So true, lenny is very quick and solid from what I have found. Heck, even with the backports so you can run new kernels you can now run ext4 and it's improvements. I've had a heck of a time getting all that set up with the new wine and flash for 64bit. =( But squeeze is running stable so far. =)
 
  


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