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jdkaye 07-27-2015 03:00 AM

KDE systemsettings: Houston, we have a problem
 
As of this morning systemsettings no longer works. I checked around and found the issue. It's described in Debian bug #793574. As of now, no solution. Anyone else have this problem?
jdk

descendant_command 07-27-2015 03:32 AM

Do you not use apt-listbugs?

KDE is in transition - breakage is to be expected :)

jdkaye 07-27-2015 04:03 AM

Yes, I do indeed use apt-listbugs. As you can easily see from the bug report, it was reported on Saturday. I had not rebooted my machine for a number of days until early this morning.
KDE is certainly meeting our expectations; mysql has managed to disable the Amarok database. I only posted this on the (unfounded?) expectation that it might be useful to someone.
jdk

descendant_command 07-27-2015 04:43 AM

All good.

I posted the 'apt-listbugs' question in case it was useful to someone too :)

You can downgrade to the old packages if you still have them in your cache, or get them from snapshots.debian.org, or just wait until fixed versions are uploaded (downgrades can be problematic - especially during a big transition).
Can take a while to filter through to testing though, so another option is to grab the fixes from sid when they appear.

edit: as another aside, 'checkrestart' from the debian-goodies package can be handy to run after an upgrade.

jdkaye 07-27-2015 11:01 AM

Thanks. Yes the solution given in the link I posted above, suggested downgrading from the current version of systemsettings (called systemsettings5). I followed your suggestion and installed the checkrestart package. Here are the results:
Code:

~$ sudo checkrestart
Found 1 processes using old versions of upgraded files
(1 distinct program)
(1 distinct packages)
These processes (1) do not seem to have an associated init script to restart them:
ksysguardd:
        3497    /usr/bin/ksysguardd

If memory servers (and it does less and less these days) ksysguard was a recently updated package that was mentioned in apt-listbugs. Anyway, these things usually get cleared up in a few days so I'll be patient.
jdk

Hungry ghost 07-27-2015 04:34 PM

Yeah, systemsettings has been broken for a few weeks on my machine (using Sid). I haven't needed to use it lately, so no problem.

However, last week my desktop got useless after upgrading kde-window-manager to version 4:5.3.2-2 (bug report here), so I had to downgrade. (I'm using apt-listbugs, but for some reason it didn't notify me of this bug this time, or maybe I didn't pay attention).

Didn't know about Amarok and mysql. So far I haven't had any issues with it, but I'll watch out for bugs when upgrading Amarok or mysql (I'm heavily Amarok-dependent! ;)).

Anyway, I guess we need to be careful in the next few weeks with the upgrade to KDE5.

jdkaye 07-27-2015 11:42 PM

Latest update: now my wifi connection has disappeared from the system tray. At least the wifi is still working. I can't remember ever having so many problems with Testing before.
jdk

jdkaye 07-29-2015 12:54 AM

Debian KDE systemsettings bug severity raised to Grave
 
Debian have merged the following bugs: 790703, 791606, 791699, 793539, 793878 and raised the severity level to Grave.
Solution? Be patient. Note that this is labelled specifically as a Testing (Stretch) bug.
jdk

replica9000 07-29-2015 11:47 AM

Other than KDE apps not honoring font changes, systemsettings has been working for me. KDE5 has just been a little buggy in general due to the transition. Sometimes KDE hangs, resets the wallpaper, and continues like normal.

jdkaye 07-30-2015 03:47 AM

KDE now dead-in-the-water
 
So I rebooted this morning to see if all the upgrades would make a difference. They most certainly did. The KDE desktop is unusable. Windows do not have any controls in the control (docking, full-screen, reducing and closing). There is no working K-menu in the lower-left corner. Fortunately, I have a couple of fall-back desktops. I am now using a gnome minimalist desktop which is at least functional. When will this end. :(
jdk

Hungry ghost 07-30-2015 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdkaye (Post 5398224)
So I rebooted this morning to see if all the upgrades would make a difference. They most certainly did. The KDE desktop is unusable. Windows do not have any controls in the control (docking, full-screen, reducing and closing). There is no working K-menu in the lower-left corner. Fortunately, I have a couple of fall-back desktops. I am now using a gnome minimalist desktop which is at least functional. When will this end. :(
jdk

That's the same problem I experienced when upgrading kde-window-manager to v. 4:5.3.2-2. Downgrading it to v. 4:4.11.13-2 solved the problem.

jdkaye 07-30-2015 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odiseo77 (Post 5398269)
That's the same problem I experienced when upgrading kde-window-manager to v. 4:5.3.2-2. Downgrading it to v. 4:4.11.13-2 solved the problem.

Thanks, I'll give it a try. Can you tell me the exact command(s) you used to do this. I'm worrying about falling into a dependency/broken-package hell.
cheers,
jdk

Hungry ghost 07-30-2015 08:38 AM

This is what my bash history shows, but I don't remember whether I downgraded directly from the testing repository (which had the previous version by that time), or downloaded the package and installed locally from my computer:

Code:

  436  apt-get remove kde-window-manager
  437  apt-get install -t testing kde-window-manager
  438  service kdm start
  439  exit
  440  dpkg --simulate -i kde-window-manager_4.11.13-2_amd64.deb
  441  dpkg -i kde-window-manager_4.11.13-2_amd64.deb
  442  exit

In any case, the procedure was to remove the latest version of kde-window-manager first and install the previous version, either by adding Stable to your sources.list, or by downloading the package from the Stable repository and installing it locally (I think this was what worked for me at the end).

jdkaye 07-30-2015 11:34 AM

Thanks Odiseo. I notice that Sid now has 4:5.3.2-3. Maybe I'll first try going up stream and see if that fixes the problem. I'll report back on the results.
jdk

jdkaye 07-30-2015 12:11 PM

Nope. It's even worse than before. Even fewer items in systemsettings. I'll try your method.
jdk


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