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Old 12-01-2005, 06:48 AM   #1
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KDE Destroyed!

Hello everyone! Last night I tried to install kdebluetooth, had the sources pointing to the testing distribution, although I originally installed Sarge. I did have it on unstable to install a certain package, but changed it back to testing to do this bluetooth thing because I thought it would be safer. Well, after changing it to testing, the kdebluetooth had unmet dependencies. I thought, "no problem, I'll just switch back to unstable to install it." So I did, and it still gave me the same error. I hadn't installed anything at all at this point.

Anyway, ended up downloading kdebluetooth from the Debian website and doing a apt-get -f install. Totally broke everything to do with KDE, since it uninstalled it and refused to reinstall. So, I changed the repositories to 'stable' and tried to reinstall. I don't know how many thousand unresolvable dependencies it told me that KDE has, and it refused to reinstall. What in the world??? I thought, since it is supposedly working in 'stable', I could just reinstall. Is there something I should do before/after switching the repositories from 'unstable' to 'testing' or 'testing' to 'stable' that I missed, and that's why nothing installs properly anymore and gives me dependency errors? This is so upsetting!

Thanks for any help.
Old 12-01-2005, 08:33 AM   #2
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I ran into a similar problem last night actually... I was doing a dist upgrade to Etch and I was in the terminal window in KDE.. After realizing I should have stopped kde, I killed the distro-upgrade process with CTRL+C and proceeded to shut down kde.

distro-upgrade refused to start up again and told me all kinds of dependency issues or some crap. So I tried
apt-get distro-upgrade -f
and it told me specific packages that could not be 'upgraded' and that I should try
apt-get -f install
So I did. It installed a few things, a lot of them still erroring. When it finished, it told me it did not finish properly, and told me 'udev' could not be upgraded.

After fidling around for a few minutes I realized it was trying to install it, then upgrade it... I already had it installed, so that was one of my main errors... The file already exists...

Manual 'rm' didn't work, so I tried
dpkg --remove udev
and it told me dependency problems with Hal. Said hal needed udev. So I removed hal then udev. Once this was done I tried
apt-get -f install
again and it continued through about 50 files successfully. I then continued to run
apt-get distro-upgrade
and it completed the other 700 something packages it didnt the first time.

Anyways, point is, I think you might have some dependeny issues like I did. The whole thing about it wants to install something thats already installed part. Try reading your error messages more fully, and not just the last few lines. Try to read as far up as you can to try to pinpoint the origin of the first error.

The problem packages (if you find any) I'd just remove them and then install them. Or maybe I am completely wrong, and still frustrated about my little 2 hour setback last night....
Old 12-01-2005, 09:54 AM   #3
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Maybe you're right. But is there a way to re-install the packages without having to uninstall what's already there? Perhaps there is a way to force apt to over-write packages, even if they are newer?

Also, you don't think I have a problem with the sources.list? I guess that's good! Cause everything looked right, even when comparing it to a fully functional machine. It just had those nasty dependency errors when trying to install KDE. Do you think it would work to re-install KDE from the Sarge CD? Right now, I have the CD commented out in my sources, but I could try uncommenting that and doing a reinstall of KDE.
Old 12-01-2005, 10:40 AM   #4
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rodw u may want to run apt-cache policy kde and apt-cache policy udev,hal to see what versions u have. That prior udev,hal thing occurs with sarge to etch upgrade wc gives the hal/udev error wn kernel is not 2.6.12+. If u were upgrading to etch the kernel upgrade would eliminate the udev/hal error message. U must choose what version u want. Sarge is most stable and etch is pretty good. Sid is going thru changes wc may make upgrade touchy.
apt-cache policy bluetooth
apt-get -s -t etch or sarge install bluetooth may give hints on dependencies
apt-cache depends pkgname may also be of use.
readup on debian version downgrades before making anymore big changes.
good luck.
Old 12-01-2005, 05:10 PM   #5
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Okay, I'll try that. Although I have kernel 2.6.14 and never saw a udev or hal error. I may have easily missed it though.
Old 12-07-2005, 10:39 AM   #6
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I am having the same problem. I have the alioth repository in my sources.list and when I went to do a dist-upgrade a couple of days ago it said it was going to upgrade KDE. Sounds great, I thought. Instead, all it did as far as I can tell is remove KDE along with all KDE apps and now complains about dependencies, saying:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
kde: Depends: kde-core but it is not going to be installed
Depends: kde-amusements but it is not going to be installed
Depends: kdeaddons but it is not installable
Depends: kdeadmin but it is not going to be installed
Depends: kdeartwork but it is not going to be installed
Depends: kdegraphics but it is not going to be installed
Depends: kdemultimedia but it is not going to be installed
Depends: kdenetwork but it is not going to be installed
Depends: kdepim but it is not going to be installed
Depends: kdeutils but it is not going to be installed
Depends: kdewebdev but it is not going to be installed

It is not going to be installed?? Why not? The rest of the error message says that those packages might have been removed from Incoming, but I would assume that this uninstall with no reinstall thing would be a huge problem but there doesn't seem to be widespread chaos. And it's been like this for days now. So what gives?
Old 12-07-2005, 11:33 AM   #7
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It looks like this is largely fixed. Last night I was able to upgrade 295 packages. I lost a few but was able to reinstall what I needed. It seems that the KDE 3.4 packages have been released in a dribble so that there were a lot of unmet dependencies.

Unfortunately Kdar was removed and won't install at the moment.


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