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Old 04-26-2004, 11:21 AM   #1
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KDE 3.2 menu system for non native apps down?


After apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, KDE no longer creates the major Debian entry in the KDE menu.

update-menus doesnt get it either. Maybe another bugg.

Please offer a comment or two or better yet some guidance. Thanx!
 
Old 04-26-2004, 05:32 PM   #2
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if you think it is a bug, check the bugtracking lists. That would be the proper locale to look before posting here.

http://www.debian.org/Bugs/
 
Old 04-26-2004, 06:01 PM   #3
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Visited that url, no mention of it; however, it has been mentioned here. After my posting of the problem among several others on different threads, kde3.2 's menu system for Debian applications worked after an apt-get update & upgrade--something done week-daily with SID. After the last upgrade, Saturday, before this mornings that didn't cure the ill, the Debian menu disappeared.

update-menus did not return any errors, but it did not fix the problem.

when visiting the application for editing kde-menu and clicking the plus sign to its right reveals that there is nothing there...mmmmm.

My other window managers, fluxbox, twm, icewm, and gnome have not exhibited these problems. Fluxbox and icewm were added last with apt-get install fluxbox icewm.

Any ideas or should I make a bug report. There are others as well but are not as detrimental to productivity as missing the shortcuts to most of my major applications installed through apt-get.

Thanx! I know u'll get bak with something useful.
 
Old 04-26-2004, 09:35 PM   #4
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i also have that problem and i heard that it something to do with kde 3.2
 
Old 04-27-2004, 03:38 AM   #5
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I had the problem when I first upgraded to Kde 3.2 but when I deleted the debian folder that got put into my kmenu and deleted the extra office folder that contained the same links that the other office folder did, then rebooted, my menu straightened itself out to be correct. Just use the menu editor and delete any folders you see in the menu that shouldn't be there or are redundant.

Also there is a menu updating option in kmenu > settings and you can use that to scan for missing items to add to your menu.

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Old 04-27-2004, 03:39 AM   #6
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Plus, do an apt-get upgrade again to see if there are any other files that need to be updated to get kde working right for you.
 
Old 04-27-2004, 09:42 PM   #7
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Do the apt-get update & upgrade daily.

I experienced problems before, but hopefully I stated earlier, that it was fixed with one of my daily apt-get update and upgrade routines. Later it screwed up. However, I have noticed that OpenOffice does have double mention as others like xine, ...

However, the debian menu has disappeared.
When using the menu editor for legacy apps, they appear in their respective places. Curiously the debian menu is present but nothing in its entry...mmm.

Hoping that subsequent apt-get updates or upgrades will solve the solution. Was simply wondering if anyone had experienced the same problem with the menu system broken then fixed and then broken again.

Oh yeah, will try to remove redundancies to see if that helps.

Thanx.
 
Old 04-28-2004, 09:08 AM   #8
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Outabux, the debian menu is empty and is what is screwing up the kmenu. It's a bug. Delete the debian folder that you see when you go into menu editor and delete any other strange looking folders that are unnecessary.
 
Old 04-28-2004, 04:55 PM   #9
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no dice, deleted Debian Folder and one of the office folders + some more stuff and again tried the manual update-menus command====>buggy again.

dont know what the deal is with kde3.2 but i like 3.1.5, very tidy.
anyway thanx and keep it comin...
 
Old 04-28-2004, 05:55 PM   #10
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Did you look for the menu updating tool in the kmenu under settings? That is what I use to add new menu items. Usually when I install a new program, kde will put a link in the menu but sometimes I have to use the menu updating tool.
 
Old 04-28-2004, 06:34 PM   #11
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Probably havent understood any of my posts--my fault.
* Had problems with menu system not even creating a Debian Menu.
* Posted and researched.
* Waited for apt-get update/apt-get upgrade to fix. Voila.
* After another apt-get update/apt-get upgrade, BOOM!
* Yes under settings, kmenu editor & the one for non-native apps didn't work--removed empty Debian Menu and other office menu.
* Nothing. Refreshed all "legacy" apps to kmenu.
* Same thing.

Well hope another apt-get update/upgrade does it...meaning a fix in the bug or another roll of debian SID from scratch would do the trick.

At least, this had made me explore Fluxbox, Gnome, TWM, IceWM.
Like IceWM, good framerates for bzFlag.
 
Old 04-29-2004, 07:24 AM   #12
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Did some Googling and found some information on "menu" and "update-menus"

tried with verbose output: no mention of KDE--

i8250d:~# update-menus -v
update-menus[5586]: Dpkg is not locking dpkg status area, good.
update-menus[5586]: Reading installed packages list...
update-menus[5586]: Reading menu-entry files in /etc/menu/.
update-menus[5586]: 0 menu entries found (0 total).
update-menus[5586]: Reading menu-entry files in /usr/lib/menu/.
update-menus[5586]: 352 menu entries found (352 total).
update-menus[5586]: Reading menu-entry files in /usr/share/menu/.
update-menus[5586]: 0 menu entries found (352 total).
update-menus[5586]: Reading menu-entry files in /usr/share/menu/default/.
update-menus[5586]: 0 menu entries found (352 total).
update-menus[5586]: Running menu-methods in /etc/menu-methods/.
update-menus[5586]: Running method: /etc/menu-methods/twm
update-menus[5586]: Running method: /etc/menu-methods/icewm-common
update-menus[5586]: Running method: /etc/menu-methods/gnome-panel
update-menus[5586]: Running method: /etc/menu-methods/fluxbox


Does this help? Even looked in the assigned places for the menus...works for everything but kde3.2...will have to learn how to pin a package (kde 3.1.5 for sure) until bugs are worked out.

Anyway, what are the improvements of 3.2 over 3.1.5? Just looks like they moved a bunch of menus and preferences around a bit. Mmmm Mmmm. Dunno?

Thanx!
 
Old 04-29-2004, 09:32 AM   #13
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For one thing...k3b works better with kde 3.2.2, also, lots of new styles and windows decorations have been added. Plus, since I have no problem myself with my menu in kmenu, I see lots of new software I didn't have before in kde 3.2.2.
 
Old 04-29-2004, 09:33 AM   #14
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If you prefer fluxbox, use that instead. Personally, I like having lots of different software choices and different ways to configure my desktop. Not everyone cares about the desktop.
 
Old 04-29-2004, 09:44 PM   #15
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apt-get install menu-xdg and restart of KDE worked here
 
  


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