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megaprog 10-29-2006 06:56 AM

Is it possible to hide my ip ??
 
Hi guys, I was wondering If it is possible to hide my IP adress, I know there is some software to do that on windows, but I haven't achived to find one for linux, well I hope some could guide trhough the light in the middle of this darkness of knowledge, hehe.

Greetings...

IBall 10-29-2006 07:53 AM

Why do you want to do that?

Besides, if you are on a LAN then the chances are that your network uses some form of NAT. Therefore, the IP address that you are "hiding" is a private IP address anyway and has no meaning on the internet.

Try Google, it may help you.

--Ian

craigevil 10-29-2006 08:19 AM

Tor+privoxy , both are available via APT.

Although if you have Java or javascript enabled in your browser sites can still get your ip. There really isn't a sure fired way of hiding your ip. The whole anonymous browsing thing just doesn't work, at least not without crippling your browser and using enough proxies to slow your web browsing to a crawl.

megaprog 10-29-2006 08:22 AM

I don't care about the browser
 
It doesn't matter If my browser reveals my IP, I only care for LAN conections, because I;m starting to study hacking and I don't need my IP revealing my position.

Thanks for the answer, I couldn't find Tor, but I installed privoxy, would it be enough to achive my goal ?

introuble 10-29-2006 08:57 AM

Pfahahaha. Sorry. You're just going to get pretty flamed because of your so called "reasons".

You've started to study "hacking". I'll take it you mean illegally having access/control to some computers. Because you are not looking to develop this sort of skill through programming, you're most likely studying how to become a script kiddie. Nobody who's anybody will help you with that.

megaprog 10-29-2006 10:44 AM

Absolutely WRONG !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by introuble
Pfahahaha. Sorry. You're just going to get pretty flamed because of your so called "reasons".

You've started to study "hacking". I'll take it you mean illegally having access/control to some computers. Because you are not looking to develop this sort of skill through programming, you're most likely studying how to become a script kiddie. Nobody who's anybody will help you with that.

You have no reasons to say that, I'm an expert programmer, and a medium Linux user, I don;t even have any program, I wanna use my owns, that's why I'm asking fo help here about it, cause for one or anoteh reason this matters only to Linux users.

craigevil 10-29-2006 11:45 AM

Tor is in unstable repos. Or you can follow the directions at:
TheOnionRouter/TorOnDebian - Noreply Wiki
http://wiki.noreply.org/noreply/TheO...t=%28Debian%29

introuble 10-30-2006 06:59 AM

Quote:

You have no reasons to say that, I'm an expert programmer,
Allow me not to believe that. Thanks.

Dutch Master 10-30-2006 07:40 AM

Recently I've read a column by John "Maddog" Hall in the Linux Magazine (US edition) addressing precisely this point. Most people know from and therefor associate the word "hacker" from the media, who portray them as "evil and only out for personal financial gains". But that's not the origin of the meaning of this word. Hacking is the respectable way of modifying a computerprogram to suit your needs and/or enviroment. O'Reilly even has (at least) 2 books on server hacking, describing ways to improve server performance and increase it's security. (Linux Server Hacks, vol. 1 & 2, see the O'Reilly website) What the media portrays are actually "crackers", those are the "Black Sheep" (or Black Hats) in the programming community, giving the entire community a bad name... :tisk:

So, IMHO the TS might very well have respectable intentions by studying "Hacking". However, I do agree that wanting to hide your IP makes you a suspect, as this is generally considered a trademark for criminal programmers. Keep in mind that "cracking" is a crime, and if you believe you're untraceable and smarter than the Law, you really are naive.... :-\ :rolleyes:

<edit: I realized Mr Hall doesn't contribute to Linux Magazine, his articles are published in Linux Journal. Sorry!>

megaprog 10-30-2006 11:10 PM

Thanks craigevil...

Ok introuble, thanks for trusting my words...

Dutch Master, thanks for you comments about the "hacking", I will visit the web of O'Reilly, and It is very important what you speak about understanding crackers and hackers, this is so much a long stuff to speak about. Well and about my suspicious actions, It's just that even when you don't have any bad purpose, it is good to hide your ip adress as you can.

Thanks you all guys for the time and for the help.

FredGSanford 10-31-2006 03:14 AM

Turn off your internet connection and that will hide it very well! :tisk:

megaprog 10-31-2006 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredGSanford
Turn off your internet connection and that will hide it very well! :tisk:

Very funny, I hope this is not some a kind of a mean treating.

introuble 10-31-2006 06:51 AM

Quote:

Recently I've read a column by John "Maddog" Hall in the Linux Magazine (US edition) addressing precisely this point. Most people know from and therefor associate the word "hacker" from the media, who portray them as "evil and only out for personal financial gains". But that's not the origin of the meaning of this word. Hacking is the respectable way of modifying a computerprogram to suit your needs and/or enviroment. O'Reilly even has (at least) 2 books on server hacking, describing ways to improve server performance and increase it's security. (Linux Server Hacks, vol. 1 & 2, see the O'Reilly website) What the media portrays are actually "crackers", those are the "Black Sheep" (or Black Hats) in the programming community, giving the entire community a bad name...
Yada yada yada. I've heard this cry countless times before, I still don't care, and I am the kind of person that understands a word can have more than one meaning. I use hacker in both cases. Sue me.

As for megaprog, I think he really meant the comp-sec associated meaning. If not "black hat" then certainly "white hat".

-- Ah.. since it's been brought up:

dictionary.com:

3. Computer Slang.
a. a computer enthusiast.
b. a microcomputer user who attempts to gain unauthorized access to proprietary computer systems.

wikitionary:

hacker:
4. A cracker; one who breaks into computer systems, especially with malicious or criminal intent

The word also has the "black hat" meaning. So get over it already.

Dutch Master 10-31-2006 07:25 AM

Life is a colorful array of nuances, and apparently you've decided to be colorblind. That's your choice, fine by me. But don't impose your "truth" on someone else. Do you realise that without hacking Linux wouldn't exist in the first place? Nor would it be so extensively supported (11 supported architectures for Debian alone). Like you I despise the Black Hat types, but that doesn't mean that I see all 'hackers' as equal or equally bad...

farslayer 10-31-2006 11:03 AM

Leave it to the Media to screw up yet another topic they don't understand by skewing the meanings of descriptive references.. But hey isn't that what the media is all about anyway ? the misrepresentation and sensationalism of events and ideas ?

I stick with the correct meanings during discussions to avoid misunderstandings:
hacker = skilled coder one who relishes a challenge and uses their powers for good.
cracker = malicious cyber intruder who uses their powers for evil, either for destructive purposes or monetary gain.


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