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Old 06-14-2007, 09:46 AM   #1
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Installer gets stuck at 33% formatted...


Ok I have upgraded my file server at home with an XFX Revo 3 port SATA RAID card (Netcell based hardware RAID) and 2 Samsung 400GB drives arranged in a RAID-1.

Other hardware includes 2xPentium III-S 1266, 1GB PC133, Gigabyte 6VTXD, 16MB Riva TNT, Intel Pro 1000/MT.

I decided to install Etch on this as I am growing to prefer the Debian way of doing things. So I downloaded the DVD-1 image and burnt it.

The installer boots fine and I get through all the partitioning and as (I reach the same point every time) soon as I hit 'format' it begins formatting /boot but gets stuck at 33% and stays there.

I partitioned like this:
100MB /boot
2048MB /swap
17.9GB /
380GB /srv

Can't seem to find why the installer is always sticking like this, anyone else had a problem?

ALl the hardware gets picked up, I see Netcell flashing past on load and it picks up the RAID volume ok...

Thanks for any ideas.
 
Old 06-14-2007, 11:24 AM   #2
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1. Did you double check if the DVD image was downloaded properly
2. You can download knoppix/ gparted CD and do the partition stuff first and then try reinstall with Debian etch
3. Try reading the release notes and errata of etch - if there is any specific problem (hardware incompatibility)
 
Old 06-14-2007, 12:04 PM   #3
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Debian still has issues with RAID setups. Are you by chance trying to install Etch on a RAID array? If you do, that's the cause. Fortunately there is a simple remedy: use an IDE disk for the root system to reside on. As it is a server, you won't reboot so much, so performance-wise it's not really an issue
 
Old 06-14-2007, 01:40 PM   #4
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Debian still has issues with RAID setups. Are you by chance trying to install Etch on a RAID array? If you do, that's the cause. Fortunately there is a simple remedy: use an IDE disk for the root system to reside on. As it is a server, you won't reboot so much, so performance-wise it's not really an issue
I am installing on a RAID - but it is a hardware RAID and should appear to the OS as a single volume, the Netcell chipset is supported by the Kernel.

I don't really want to add another disk, I have them setup with elastic suspension and the whole system configured for silence...

I'll try partioning with another Distro...

Could using LVM help?
 
Old 06-14-2007, 05:35 PM   #5
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Changed

Changed file system to XFS and it partitioned and continued fine.

GParted on knoppix gave a non specific error when I try ext3 as well, so I tried XFS and it worked... deleted the table and went back thru Debian and install went fine so far.

Any disadvantage to configuring my partitions above as XFS?
 
Old 06-14-2007, 05:45 PM   #6
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Not really, I use XFS as well. However, XFS and Grub (the bootloader) don't go well together, so format /boot as JFS or ReiserFS (I used JFS).

Compare various filesystems: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems The Linux Gazette has an article (albeit rather old: 2004) here: http://linuxgazette.net/102/piszcz.html
 
Old 06-14-2007, 05:57 PM   #7
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Not really, I use XFS as well.
Do you run it since a long time?
Did you ever experienced a power failure? You have an UPS?

I got bad results with xfs in case of power failure. Without UPS I find it dangerous. I stopped using it at the beggining of this year when I got hit by another major bug in xfs code (I was not the only one..), I lost a lot datas.

On the other side.. a lot of people are using it without a problem.. (with an UPS for sure!!!)

I did not see any speed improvement. Looking at a lot of benchmarks I guess I should try again with xfs for my apt database, when I get an UPS.
 
Old 06-14-2007, 07:07 PM   #8
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Based on the hardware profile, I would have tried ReiserFS, XFS is optimized for 64bit systems.
 
Old 06-14-2007, 07:10 PM   #9
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Do you run it since a long time?
Since november 2005, when I whiped Win98SE of the PC forgood. I did reinstalled a few times, but that had nothing to do with the filesystem. My choise was driven by the wish to convert the machine into a multimediacentre and discontent about the previously used ReiserFS.
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Did you ever experienced a power failure?
No, but the powersupply is very reliable in this part of the world.
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You have an UPS?
No, but I did look at one before building my home server. As stated on the previous question, powerloss is rare, I can't remember it ever happening here for as long as I can remember (I'm 35 now)...

Worth noting that in Europe the power network is significantly different from the US situation. Here powercables are layed underground, even in rural areas for most of the time. Only the very high voltage lines (50 kV and up) are in the open, and Europe has a dense interconnected network of these high-powerlines. In the US it's very common, even in cities, to have powerlines hanging across the street, susceptible to everything humans, the weather and even animals can and will throw at it.
 
Old 06-14-2007, 07:19 PM   #10
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Do you run it since a long time?
Did you ever experienced a power failure? You have an UPS?

I got bad results with xfs in case of power failure. Without UPS I find it dangerous. I stopped using it at the beggining of this year when I got hit by another major bug in xfs code (I was not the only one..), I lost a lot datas.

On the other side.. a lot of people are using it without a problem.. (with an UPS for sure!!!)

I did not see any speed improvement. Looking at a lot of benchmarks I guess I should try again with xfs for my apt database, when I get an UPS.
Is JFS or Reiser any better for data security?

I installed a basic system, I found it would let me use ext3 for /boot if I used XFS for / and /srv.

Would I be better with another fs for a file/web server? I was put off Reiser the non synchronous dir operations thing I read about.
 
Old 06-14-2007, 07:39 PM   #11
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If you want to be on the safe side, use ext3 for all partitions. XFS and JFS are very well suited to handle large files, like video, but suffer performance-wise on smaller files, like webpages. I suggest to really read the Linux Gazette article, it has some useful graphics to study.

However, would you mind explaining what that 380GB /srv partition is intended for? For a webserver it would make more sense to have that as storage for the users home directories. In your current setup, the /home dir would be located in the / partition, competing for space with the likes or /var/log et all. Trust me, you really don't want that...
 
Old 06-15-2007, 04:58 AM   #12
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If you want to be on the safe side, use ext3 for all partitions. XFS and JFS are very well suited to handle large files, like video, but suffer performance-wise on smaller files, like webpages. I suggest to really read the Linux Gazette article, it has some useful graphics to study.

However, would you mind explaining what that 380GB /srv partition is intended for? For a webserver it would make more sense to have that as storage for the users home directories. In your current setup, the /home dir would be located in the / partition, competing for space with the likes or /var/log et all. Trust me, you really don't want that...
Have been studying Wikipedia and that article, upsides and downsides for all the options!

Well there is just the one real 'user', other people will have a username to set different access for Samba maybe, but thats about it... so I won't be worrying about swelling of the /home directory - in fact it will probably only have a few GB of my files at most.

I will be using the machine mainly as a repository for my media collection, so all computers in the house can access it, I've rigged it for silent running so it can stay on 24/7 and it hides away in a corner.

I will also run on it a web server for small scale sites (mostly for my own use in development) and sharing things over the net with my friends or accessing my files from work. /var/www won't use many GB with web code.

/srv will hold all the media, I tend to find keeping files in a seperate partition like this easier to work with - for example if I need to work on the OS the files are in a seperate partition.

The only thing I just thought of is that I might use it to process DVD into DivX, which will require a working directory...

For some reason when I select ext3 as the fs for / I can't correctly format the partition in the Debian installer or with gparted on Knoppix.
 
Old 06-17-2007, 06:05 PM   #13
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Sorted it out in the end, turned out to be a bad stick of RAM which showed up when I ran Memtest86... should have done that earlier I guess but what threw me was that XFS, Reiser and JFS would all format successfully...

Anyway removed the RAM (back down to 512MB now which is annoying... but nevermind) and have installed on ext3 partitions fine, there was nothing wrong with the RAID at all.
 
  


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