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Old 03-02-2004, 08:08 AM   #1
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Install Debian using Knoppix


Hi.
I have previosly posted a thread to this forum, for installing Debian via Netinstall. Wasn't able to connect to the web, so that was ruled out. However just got a knoppix cd also downloaded from the web, and it was able to get me on the web.

The 1000$ question is now, is it possible to do a Debian Install from this knoppix cd.. from scratch.. Just as if you did it from ex. sarge netinstall cd..?
And ofcourse how?
 
Old 03-02-2004, 08:57 AM   #2
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Just boot with knoppix cd. Fix all your detected stuff (video mode, mounting devices, etc). Then open a root terminal and type:

knoppix-installer

That's it. You will have all the options to install the system on a partition of your choice. During installation you will be asked for "Debian installation?". Just check this option..
 
Old 03-02-2004, 09:25 AM   #3
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ok, will try that, but will this be a OS just as if i had installed from a net cd, with the apt-get and so on..
 
Old 03-02-2004, 12:36 PM   #4
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that didn't seem very convincing,, it comes with lot of errors all of a suddon, and the netcard once again doesn't seem to work.
is it possible to just install the normal debian with knoppix in the background, so that my net is up and running.
 
Old 03-02-2004, 01:14 PM   #5
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What kind of network card do you have? If you open a terminal and su, then type 'modconf' you can scroll down to the drivers/net section and look for the driver for your card there. Even though you are on the live cd, you can load it and then open the menu, go to the knoppix subsection, and click Network/Internet -> Network Card Configuration. From there just press apply, then quit. It worked for me, hopefully you will find your driver with modconf and that will work for you.

I have used Kanotix (http://kanotix.de) to install Debian and I've had lots of success with that.

Good luck

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Old 03-02-2004, 02:40 PM   #6
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ok, so this kanotix distro, will get me debian as if i installed it using bootdisk's...?

I will give it a try, but its 700 Mb, so it will take me an hour or two..
 
Old 03-03-2004, 12:12 PM   #7
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I don't know what you mean by bootdisks... Kanotix is based on Knoppix and like Knoppix, you burn it to a cd as an image (.iso) and boot off the cd.
To install it to the harddrive you boot off the cd, open a terminal, 'su' press enter, 'knoppix-installer'
Once it's done, reboot, check your apt-sources, and do an 'apt-get -f dist-upgrade' and you will have Debian Sid (unstable).
 
Old 03-03-2004, 01:23 PM   #8
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but what about all that stuff i dont want, games open office, etc... wouldn't it be installed too???
 
Old 03-03-2004, 01:55 PM   #9
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you're gonna have to 'apt-get remove --purge <all the stuff you don't want>' in Knoppix.

or you can download Libranet 2.7, do a minimal install, point the sources.list
to sarge or sid, apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade. And later on, install with apt-get all the stuff you want.
 
Old 03-04-2004, 05:54 AM   #10
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I did a Knoppix Debian-type HD install. I rid myself of superfluous packages with a simple apt-get remove --purge `kicklist.txt`.

I have never been happier with a Linux distro, which to date includes Mandrake 8.0 - 10, SuSE 8.2 pro & SuSE 9.0, Redhat 8.0, Fedora, Gentoo (which I never got X to work), and Slackware (which I freaked when I realized how much you had to know about your hardware and bailed).

I now have a nicely configured dual-boot system, with Knoppix/Debian as my main OS. /home, /usr & /var are on their own partitions, and i boot everything from the NT loader.

I absolutely love Knoppix. I'm no 'nix expert, but I've yet to see any OS with better hardware detection or ease of install.
 
Old 03-04-2004, 08:15 AM   #11
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Perhaps i shouldn't have been so hasty, but now i finally got debian woody installed using the web.

The only thing to do was to in the shell to type ifdown eth0 end ifup eth0 a coulple of times, that did the trick..

dont now why but i works
 
Old 03-05-2004, 11:40 AM   #12
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Boot disks can be CD, floppy, or a HD

Quote:
Originally posted by pibby
I don't know what you mean by bootdisks... Kanotix is based on Knoppix and like Knoppix, you burn it to a cd as an image (.iso) and boot off the cd.
To install it to the harddrive you boot off the cd, open a terminal, 'su' press enter, 'knoppix-installer'
Once it's done, reboot, check your apt-sources, and do an 'apt-get -f dist-upgrade' and you will have Debian Sid (unstable).
A boot disk can be either a floppy disk or a set of floppies, a CD, or a hard disk partition, any of which can hold a bootable system image. Usually this boot image is called vmlinuz by convention; it may have other identifying names or numbers with it, or it might be called bzImage or something similar. The bootable image goes into the first part of the media- at the start of the CD/disk/floppy.
 
Old 03-05-2004, 09:18 PM   #13
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Knoppix sets up some things in a non-standard Debian way, including custom initscripts, custom software packages, custome graphics, etc. Of course, all of these things can be removed using apt-get. You also have a lot of different options that the "official" ways of installing.

For a list of installers for Debian, see:

http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/installers.html

Progeny has recently release iso's of Debian Sarge that install using a ported version of Anaconda:

http://archive.progeny.com/progeny/l...-i386/current/

It doesn't work perfectly, but it is an easy way to get an installation closer to standard Debian than you get using Knoppix.
 
Old 03-06-2004, 05:11 PM   #14
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Knoppix 3.3 has been updated with a new installer, sudo knoppix-installer.

Just type that command in a root prompt to install Knoppix to the hard drive.
Very intuitive and easy to use, especially compared to Debian's native installer.

I realize that you can accomplish it the other way, but in my informal testing adding sudo before works better. I'm not sure why this is, and searching the Knoppix forums doesn't come up with anything except for the fact that sudo is Super User DO, which allows one to execute a command as the "superuser" for a computer.

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Old 03-06-2004, 06:28 PM   #15
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Originally posted by apache363
I'm not sure why this is, and searching the Knoppix forums doesn't come up with anything except for the fact that sudo is Super User DO, which allows one to execute a command as the "superuser" for a computer.

Just a minor nit to pick, it allows you to execute a (many, all) command(s) as another user not just root using the settings in the file /etc/sudoers comes in damn handy sometimes.
 
  


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