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Old 08-30-2004, 02:09 AM   #1
Duffy
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I am having boot problems


I am able to install Sarge(i386) just fine with the RC1, and 08/25 build debian-installer of course using the 2.6 kernel, Reisfer FS on / and a 1gb swap partition. Grub is installed in MBR. And everything is correct in the menu.lst and in device.map, everything is correct as well. (hd0) ( where Grub is being installed too ) is mapped to /dev/hdc

I reboot and get

"GRUB Loading stage 1.5."
"Please wait, GRUB is loading"

And it never proceeds any further then that. No errors and I can't find any sollution or any reason why I am having this problem.

I even boot a Windows DOS disk and fix the MBR. I reformatted the linux partitions, installed debian again, and installed Lilo instead into the MBR. I reboot and I am greeted with just a flashing "L"

System is as follows

AMD64 3000+
Asus K8V Deluxe ( latest bios)
512 PC3200
One Maxtor 120gb 8mb cahce on secondary master
One Liteon DVD burner on primary master
APCI is off

What gives


Last edited by Duffy; 08-30-2004 at 04:11 AM.
 
Old 08-30-2004, 02:35 AM   #2
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Hi,..........

I assume that once you begin the installation you can finish it no problem...... Are you by any chance using a version of Debian's for a 64-bit architecture?

All the components for the AMD's 64-bit processor ( motherboard )are from a brand new technology and may not be supported by the kernel itself, like the S-ATA support for hard disks.

Also remember that you are still using a 'beta' version of the installer and you are likely to encounter a few problems on the way to success - specially in a total new architecture and platform.

I have not tried it with a 64-bit processor myself - and in your case is a CPU that could also run 32-bit OS.

However the problem you are having is definitely a kernel problem - perhaps the components are the problem causer or perhaps is just a matter of using a beta version.

My advice - just to get out of the shade of doubt - is to try with the stable version Woody and see what happens - and if you really want to get the full power of your 'beast' download the 64-bit version.


Any further information you can provide helps..............



Max
 
Old 08-30-2004, 04:08 AM   #3
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Quote:
Originally posted by Eux
Hi,..........

I assume that once you begin the installation you can finish it no problem...... Are you by any chance using a version of Debian's for a 64-bit architecture?

All the components for the AMD's 64-bit processor ( motherboard )are from a brand new technology and may not be supported by the kernel itself, like the S-ATA support for hard disks.

Also remember that you are still using a 'beta' version of the installer and you are likely to encounter a few problems on the way to success - specially in a total new architecture and platform.

I have not tried it with a 64-bit processor myself - and in your case is a CPU that could also run 32-bit OS.

However the problem you are having is definitely a kernel problem - perhaps the components are the problem causer or perhaps is just a matter of using a beta version.

My advice - just to get out of the shade of doubt - is to try with the stable version Woody and see what happens - and if you really want to get the full power of your 'beast' download the 64-bit version.


Any further information you can provide helps..............



Max
32bit, i386. I have no SATA Drives. SATA and Raid is disabled in bios

I tried the net-install bf2.4 10mb iso from here but had problems loading the sk98lin module for my onboard ethernet.

The Sarge installers automatically detected it just fine.

Last edited by Duffy; 08-30-2004 at 04:12 AM.
 
Old 08-30-2004, 12:53 PM   #4
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I just tried using ext3 as my root FS and still having the same problem

I understand that the Sarge is a beta installer but why does it seem that I am the only one having this problem? I have googled and searched here and nothing shows up
 
Old 08-30-2004, 01:30 PM   #5
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Duffy - Please post your /boot/grub/menu.lst and your /etc/fstab, or check it out yourself

I had similar problems on my install and had misconfigured some things. basically, just make sure that the "root" entries in menu.lst point to the right HD and the "kernel" line reference the right partition.

Mine are as follows (for Primary, master IDE drive:

section from my /boot/grub/menu.lst
Code:
title           Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.26-1-386
root            (hd0,0)
kernel          /vmlinuz-2.4.26-1-386 root=/dev/hda2 ro
initrd          /initrd.img-2.4.26-1-386
savedefault
boot
my /etc/fstab
Code:
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
/dev/hda2       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
/dev/hda1       /boot           ext3    defaults        0       2
/dev/hda3       none            swap    sw              0       0
 
Old 08-31-2004, 08:13 AM   #6
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Here is an explanation of the flashing L : http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bootdisk-HOWTO/a1483.html

L : The first stage boot loader has been loaded and started, but it can't load the second stage boot loader. The two-digit error codes indicate the type of problem. (See also section ``Disk error codes''.) This condition usually indicates a media failure or a geometry mismatch (e.g. bad disk parameters).

What are your "two-digit error codes"?

Jgf
 
Old 08-31-2004, 02:43 PM   #7
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jgf
Here is an explanation of the flashing L : http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bootdisk-HOWTO/a1483.html

L : The first stage boot loader has been loaded and started, but it can't load the second stage boot loader. The two-digit error codes indicate the type of problem. (See also section ``Disk error codes''.) This condition usually indicates a media failure or a geometry mismatch (e.g. bad disk parameters).

What are your "two-digit error codes"?

Jgf
Thats the thing, I fixed the MBR again and reinstalled Debian lastnight and instead of using GRUB I went with LILO into the MBR. I even looked at the lilo.conf and everything is as it should be

"boot=/dev/hdc"
"root=/dev/hdc3"
etc

So I reboot and I get the flashing "L" and NO two digit error codes
 
Old 08-31-2004, 09:10 PM   #8
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OK I Just installed 2004.1 SimplyMEPIS and I am having the exact same problem!

/dev/hdg3 = root (ReiserFS)
/dev/hdg4 = swap

I did a HardDrive install and GRUB was installed into the MBR and the MEPIS install said it was installed ok. But when I reboot, I get the same thing as my first post above

Device.map
Code:
(hd0)	/dev/hdg
menu.lst
Code:
default saved
timeout 15
color cyan/blue white/blue
foreground ffffff
background 2f5178
splashimage /boot/grub/mepis.xpm.gz

title MEPIS at hdg3, kernel 2.4.26
kernel (hd0,2)/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.26 root=/dev/hdg3 nomce quiet splash=verbose vga=791 hda=ide-scsi 
initrd (hd0,2)/boot/initrd.mepis 
savedefault

title MEPIS at hdg3, kernel 2.6.7
kernel (hd0,2)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.7 root=/dev/hdg3 nomce psmouse.proto=imps quiet splash=verbose vga=791 
initrd (hd0,2)/boot/initrd.mepis 
savedefault

title Windows at hdg1
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
chainloader +1
savedefault

title Windows at hdg2
rootnoverify (hd0,1)
chainloader +1
savedefault

title MEMTEST
kernel /boot/memtest86.bin

title Use a qwerty keyboard with GRUB
setkey y y
setkey Y Y
setkey q q
setkey Q Q
setkey w w
setkey W W
setkey a a
setkey A A
setkey semicolon semicolon
setkey colon colon
setkey z z
setkey Z Z
setkey m m
setkey M M
setkey comma comma
setkey less less
setkey period period
setkey greater greater
setkey slash slash
setkey bracketright bracketright
setkey backslash backslash
setkey doublequote doublequote
setkey 1 1
setkey exclam exclam
setkey 2 2
setkey at at
setkey 3 3
setkey numbersign numbersign
setkey 4 4
setkey dollar dollar
setkey 5 5
setkey percent percent
setkey 6 6
setkey caret caret
setkey 7 7
setkey ampersand ampersand
setkey 8 8
setkey asterisk asterisk
setkey 9 9
setkey parenleft parenleft
setkey 0 0
setkey parenright parenright
setkey minus minus
setkey backquote backquote
setkey tilde tilde
setkey braceright braceright
setkey question question
setkey braceleft braceleft
setkey quote quote
setkey underscore underscore

title Utiliser un clavier azerty avec GRUB
setkey y y
setkey Y Y
setkey a q
setkey A Q
setkey z w
setkey Z W
setkey q a
setkey Q A
setkey m semicolon
setkey M colon
setkey w z
setkey W Z
setkey comma m
setkey question M
setkey semicolon comma
setkey period less
setkey colon period
setkey slash greater
setkey exclam slash
setkey dollar bracketright
setkey asterisk backslash
setkey percent doublequote
setkey ampersand 1
setkey 1 exclam
setkey tilde 2
setkey 2 at
setkey doublequote 3
setkey 3 numbersign
setkey quote 4
setkey 4 dollar
setkey parenleft 5
setkey 5 percent
setkey minus 6
setkey 6 caret
setkey backquote 7
setkey 7 ampersand
setkey underscore 8
setkey 8 asterisk
setkey caret 9
setkey 9 parenleft
setkey at 0
setkey 0 parenright
setkey parenright minus
setkey less backquote
setkey greater tilde
setkey numbersign braceright
setkey backslash question
setkey bracketright braceleft
setkey braceleft quote
setkey braceright underscore

title Benutze qwertz Tastatur mit GRUB
setkey y z
setkey z y
setkey Y Z
setkey Z Y
setkey equal parenright
setkey parenright parenleft
setkey parenleft asterisk
setkey doublequote at
setkey backquote equal
setkey plus bracketright
setkey minus slash
setkey slash ampersand
setkey ampersand percent
setkey percent caret
setkey underscore question
setkey question underscore
setkey semicolon less
setkey less numbersign
setkey numbersign backslash
setkey colon greater
setkey greater bar
setkey asterisk braceright
setkey caret backquote
setkey backslash minus
/etc/fstab

Code:
/dev/hdg3 / reiserfs defaults,noatime,notail 0 0
/dev/hdg4 swap swap sw,pri=1 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
none /proc/bus/usb usbfs devmode=0666 0 0
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0622 0 0
none /sys sysfs defaults 0 0
 
Old 09-01-2004, 04:53 AM   #9
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Duffy,

Have you tried the "linear" keyword in lilo.conf???? It could be use in case of geometry problems...

boot = /dev/hdc
delay = 10
vga = 0
linear

For exemple....

Jgf
 
Old 10-10-2004, 03:36 AM   #10
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Hey Duffy,
Similar system, similar problems.
See my rant about this:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...&highlight=k8v

I think I may take this board back to the store. It obviously has issues with booting and hard drives.
I run the 1004 BIOS and I think it has bugs.

If anyone has any ideas or thoughts, let me know...I'm about to go rip hard drives out of my computer and maybe if I'm lucky I'll be able to boot from a floppy disc.

Exo
 
Old 10-11-2004, 04:12 PM   #11
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Hi Duffy,

How come this hdg thing in the business? You've got two ide drive on primary your burner and on secondary you HD, is that right? So first is hda and second hdc, no? You hard drive should be named hd1 for grub and partitions something like hd (1,0), hd (1,1) and so on.

I think I missed something here : /

Last edited by Marc A; 10-11-2004 at 04:17 PM.
 
  


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