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Old 11-05-2008, 11:44 AM   #1
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how to install debian on another partition without booting?


Hello

A pc runs fedora, i wanna install debian wihtout boot cdrom and on anther partitiikon already free for installation. Is that possible?

If yes, how with console / cmd line ?

thanks
 
Old 11-05-2008, 12:26 PM   #2
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The short answer is that it's not possible. Debian expects to own the hardware and the filesystems. It's not possible to do that with another OS running at the same time.
 
Old 11-05-2008, 12:32 PM   #3
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The short answer is that it's not possible. Debian expects to own the hardware and the filesystems. It's not possible to do that with another OS running at the same time.
i was thinking to do so with virtualbox but the machine fedora hasnt hte source kernel of it, so i cannot install Virtualbox too

i should find a way somehow ...

but u know
sda1 fedora
...
sda6 swap
freespace of 60gb

so that i can insatll debian with ssh no? any idea s?
 
Old 11-05-2008, 12:42 PM   #4
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A virtual environment is just that: virtual, and it's usually in a virtual "box". IOW, you cannot install it to a partition. I don't know about vmware, but in virtualbox you install to a file. The virtual machine runs the OS in the file as a guest of your "real OS", but the guest OS doesn't have access to hardware or any filesystem outside of the box, except through the host OS. If you want VirtualBox, you can get it from http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads. If there's nothing for your OS, then you can compile it from the source at the bottom of the page. However, you will not be able to boot directly to any OS installed under VirtualBox. You must run your normal OS and then run VirtualBox under that.
 
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A virtual environment is just that: virtual, and it's usually in a virtual "box". IOW, you cannot install it to a partition. I don't know about vmware, but in virtualbox you install to a file. The virtual machine runs the OS in the file as a guest of your "real OS", but the guest OS doesn't have access to hardware or any filesystem outside of the box, except through the host OS. If you want VirtualBox, you can get it from http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads. If there's nothing for your OS, then you can compile it from the source at the bottom of the page. However, you will not be able to boot directly to any OS installed under VirtualBox. You must run your normal OS and then run VirtualBox under that.
with virtualbox, u can select the whole /dev/sda and boot the loaded already linux

risky but it works
 
Old 11-05-2008, 05:50 PM   #6
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There is this, it might be what you're looking for:
http://lubi.sourceforge.net/unetbootin.html
 
Old 11-05-2008, 06:01 PM   #7
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Thanks for correcting me, Brian. I didn't know that existed.
 
Old 11-05-2008, 06:10 PM   #8
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There is this, it might be what you're looking for:
http://lubi.sourceforge.net/unetbootin.html
isnt it the ubuntu stuff where u can have linux under fat32 or xp
i tried it ,and u cannot add packages
it isnt a linxu like debian.
ext3 is hte best, no?

i can be wrong for that
 
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isnt it the ubuntu stuff where u can have linux under fat32 or xp.i tried it ,and u cannot add packages
No, that's Wubi, which runs Ubuntu in sort of a virtual machine on a Windows partition. I tried it and you can add packages, it's virtually (no pun intended) indistinguishable from a "real" install. But this unetbootin allows you to install a choice of distros, including Debian, on a separate partition from a running Linux distro.
 
Old 11-15-2008, 05:22 PM   #10
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Are you after something like this:
http://www.debian.org/releases/stabl...h04s05.html.en
???
 
Old 11-16-2008, 02:22 AM   #11
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Are you after something like this:
http://www.debian.org/releases/stabl...h04s05.html.en
???
yeah thanks grub
but how to check before ultimate "reboot" it distant if you missed something in the grub?
 
Old 11-16-2008, 05:05 PM   #12
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Practise using a rescue disk before you edit your grub config.
Here's an example:
http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/325

Rescue disks are versatile, it's good to know your options when playing around with the system.

There's some good reading here:
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/os.html#OSBOOT
 
Old 11-16-2008, 08:16 PM   #13
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http://www.atmos.umd.edu/~james/arch08/arch00.jpg
 
Old 11-16-2008, 08:28 PM   #14
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Are you trying to set up a partition that you can either boot in a vm (virtualbox) or boot as the primary (ie not in a vm) at will?
 
  


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