So I am using Sid and it pulls systemd tainted packages that remove sysvinit and replace it with systemd as default init. So I want to go back to using sysvinit since systemd is a buggy blackbox and frezzes my system sometimes on boot and shutdown.

So whats the best way of removing systemd as init. I know I still need the piece of poop known as systemd on my system with all the new hard dependencies because of sellouts in the Debian TC.

I understand I can reinstall sysvinit and remove systemd as init but my searches have not come up with something current.

Thanks.

Hi,

stick to the facts. If you don't want to use systemd then don't. You're free to choose from multiple init systems. Did you try to remove the systemd package and install sysvinit? Ie
Did this not work?

Evo2.

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The package that most likely is the cause for pulling in systemd is libpam-systemd, which depends on (systemd-sysv | systemd-shim), which means that to satisfy this dependency you must either have systemd-sysv installed (which you don't want) or the systemd-shim package, which will not pull in systemd.
So you should be able to install sysvinit and remove systemd with after installing systemd-shim.
Be aware that sysvinit compatibility of Debian is only guaranteed for the upcoming Jessie release, after that no one can say to which extend you will be able to avoid systemd. If systemd really is a no-go for you it is time to think about switching distros.

Thanks it worked like a charm been running for a few weeks without a snag now.