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Old 09-29-2011, 12:46 PM   #1
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How do I install sid


Hello.

I want to use the unstable sid version of debian but I have no idea how I install it.
I tried follow some guides on this site but it doesn't seem to work.

Can you help me get sid up and running?
 
Old 09-29-2011, 12:50 PM   #2
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Download the netinstall CD and use the expert option in the boot-manager of the CD. This way it will ask you which version you want to install.
A different approach would be to install Testing (Wheezy at the moment) and then dist-upgrade to Sid.
 
Old 09-29-2011, 01:09 PM   #3
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Download the netinstall CD and use the expert option in the boot-manager of the CD. This way it will ask you which version you want to install.
A different approach would be to install Testing (Wheezy at the moment) and then dist-upgrade to Sid.
Okay. I couldn't find the option where I can choose which version to install. But I already have Wheezy installed. So how do I dist-upgrade it to Sid?
 
Old 09-29-2011, 01:28 PM   #4
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Open the file /etc/apt/sources.list with a text editor as root, then substitute all occurrences of wheezy and testing with sid, save the file and launch the commands:
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apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade
You need to be root for that, too.
As usual, bad things may happen when using Sid (or upgrading to Sid), so don't forget to make a backup first. Really seldom had such problems when I was using Debian (mix of Sid and Experimental), but it is better to be on the safe side.
 
Old 09-29-2011, 03:05 PM   #5
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Open the file /etc/apt/sources.list with a text editor as root, then substitute all occurrences of wheezy and testing with sid, save the file and launch the commands:
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apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade
You need to be root for that, too.
As usual, bad things may happen when using Sid (or upgrading to Sid), so don't forget to make a backup first. Really seldom had such problems when I was using Debian (mix of Sid and Experimental), but it is better to be on the safe side.
Thanks. It seems to upgrade to sid now.
 
Old 09-29-2011, 03:08 PM   #6
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Be aware that ATI/fglrx and quite a few other things are either completely broken or buggy as hell at the moment.

Post your sources.list, you won't need things like security in your sources.list.
 
Old 09-29-2011, 03:38 PM   #7
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Be aware that ATI/fglrx and quite a few other things are either completely broken or buggy as hell at the moment.
The effected xorg packages have now moved into testing so that's affected as well.

Regarding fglrx, 11.9 has been released upstream but is not in the debian repos as yet.
 
Old 09-30-2011, 04:58 AM   #8
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For some reason I get this error when I apt-get update: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.

I also get this error (translated from danish): "Couldn't recieve" http://security.debian.org/dists/sid...source/Sources 404 Not Found [IP: 212.211.132.32 80]

My Sources.list is:

deb http://ftp.dk.debian.org/debian/ sid main
deb-src http://ftp.dk.debian.org/debian/ sid main

deb http://security.debian.org/ sid/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ sid/updates main

EDIT: Uh. It might be because of the security updates as @craigevil said right? Can I just remove those?

Last edited by nesrail; 09-30-2011 at 05:14 AM.
 
Old 09-30-2011, 05:27 AM   #9
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Yes comment out or remove the security repos. A basic sid sources.list should only be:

Code:
deb http://ftp.dk.debian.org/debian/ sid main
deb-src http://ftp.dk.debian.org/debian/ sid main
Mine is something like this (from memory as I'm not at my machine now):

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#deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free

deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free

deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free

deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main non-free
#deb-src http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main non-free
 
Old 09-30-2011, 05:58 AM   #10
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Okay now mine looks like this:

deb http://ftp.dk.debian.org/debian sid main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.dk.debian.org/debian sid main contrib non-free

deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main non-free
deb-src http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main

It seems to run now. Thanks.

(btw, why is "deb-src http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main" not with non-free at the end?)

Last edited by nesrail; 09-30-2011 at 06:27 AM.
 
Old 09-30-2011, 06:46 AM   #11
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(btw, why is "deb-src http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main" not with non-free at the end?)
It is in the example I posted.

You can comment out the deb-src lines anyway, until such a time as you want to download package source.
 
Old 09-30-2011, 11:08 AM   #12
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Make sure to read DebianUnstable - Debian Wiki - http://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable#FAQ
 
Old 10-01-2011, 10:53 AM   #13
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Quick question. What is the different between Sid and Testing? Looks to me its almost the same. And should I be using testing instead?
 
Old 10-01-2011, 11:25 AM   #14
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Quick question. What is the different between Sid and Testing? Looks to me its almost the same. And should I be using testing instead?
Packages are run through Sid first. Any obvious and major bugs are noted and maybe fixed. Only after spending some time in Sid do they go to Testing. Sometimes Sid and Testing share the same version of a package if the devs are slow in turning out a newer version. I'd say that as time goes by from the appearance of a stable release, the distance between stable and testing gets greater and greater whereas the distance between Testing and Unstable remains pretty constant until a couple of months before the next stable release. I'm sure with a quick search you can find a clearer and more complete description than this.
ciao,
jdk
 
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Sid is the development branch, software gets there first. If the software is in Sid for a specific amount of time (I think 10 days, but not sure about that) without having bugs reported against it it moves down to testing. Testing is the branch that will be the next stable. Testing will be frozen before the release of a new version. That means that it will not get newer versions of software, and only bugfixes are allowed to go into testing.

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And should I be using testing instead?
You have to decide: http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-choosing.en.html
 
  


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