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Old 08-13-2003, 08:03 PM   #1
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Angry Heres a Doozy- Lost in KDE Hell

Alright, get this:
I've installed debian 3.0 for the five billionth time. I have been mostly enjoying this, this is generally how I learn about stuff. But now I'm getting really sick of it. I am running a p1 75mhz piece of crapzilla. During the last install, I set up KDE as the desktop mgr, and I must have done something else also becuase it boots straight to an X logon screen, instead of command prompt. ctrl alt bckspace sends me to the command line briefly, then right back to x again. KDE makes my system whine and whimper like roadkill just before eternity. I can't do anything with this mother &%$#@!ing machine now, and I don't want to instal DEBIAN AGAIN I CANT STAND IT ANYMORE SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME IM HEADING FOR THE POST OFFICE...
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How much ram do you have? I think kde needs 64 or 128megs of ram. Have you been able to use kde before? Why have you reloaded it so many times?
Old 08-13-2003, 08:12 PM   #3
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I have 16md ram, I understand now that I cant run KDE, I just want to be able to get to a command line. I really dont care that much about X, Im trying to set up a web server. I've been reinstalling so many times to tweak different things, I got an old 2.1 dist to work fine, but it didn't support a game server I was trying to run, so i'm trying a newer version...If I could only get KDE to stop, get a command line, and reconfigure my machine to not run KDE , I would be really pleased...
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Old 08-14-2003, 12:37 AM   #4
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Here is one way:

There is also a file you can edit that will acomplish the same thing, but I cannot think of or find it right now.
Old 08-14-2003, 08:49 AM   #5
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ok, but how do you get out of the X environment? every time i use ctrl alt bckspc, it just sends me right back to x...
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At the x login screen, try pressing and holding the Alt key then press one of the F1 thru F6 keys to see if you get a console screen that you can log into. Then edit the /etc/inittab file. Look for the line that looks like this: id:5:initdefault:. Change the 5 to a 2 or 3. I don't which one to use. Maybe the inittab file has info on which one to use. I got that info from here:

Scroll down to this section:4.15.4. Graphical Login with xdm
Old 08-14-2003, 05:31 PM   #7
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Definitely switch the 5 from id:5:initdefault line to a 3.

That will boot the system to a network-capable console environment. If you put 2 in there, you will still have the console, but not the network.
Old 08-19-2003, 03:30 AM   #8
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That file can be found at /etc/initrd
Old 08-19-2003, 05:04 AM   #9
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run rcconfig and remove the xdm service or do the same by hand like this:

go to the /etc/rc.x dir (x=3 to 5) and remove the Snnxdm symbolic link

Take care!! erase the link not the file that the link sends you to!!
to be sure you do the right thing edit the symlink in mc to point to invalid file (for gurus : I know this is not necessary) and then erase it.

Pressing Ctrl+Alt+Bksp doesn't do you any good. X is reentrant and killling it restarts it again.

You can have the console without removing X by pressing Ctrl+Alt+Fx (x= 1 to 6)
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If runlevel 3 (that change a 5 to a 3) isn't working for you, I change mine to runlevel 4. Any lower takes out my network.
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From what you are asking here, an xserver is not needed,
so why not:

press CTRL + Alt + F1 or F2

login as root and using your password
and do an apt-get remove xorg --purge

saves any nasty hacks or lower run levels and frees up a little
more room on your machine.

If it is just xdm starting up
edit /etc/Xorg/default-display-manager
and put a hash in front of the line that calls xdm
and then do an /etc/init.d/xdm stop

It will then stop xdm and it wont start again when the machine restarts.

Just a thought...


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