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Freebsd-8.0-RELEASE-i386-memstisck: MEMSTICK install for DEBIAN TESTING please !
Hello,
One cannot install Debian by using a memstick. Whatever kind of methods Debian proposes are kind of outdated or complicated. Bsd is better and offer this: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/re...6-memstick.img Please could some work on that to propose same quality things as BSD. thanks a lot for the community. Pendrive are today used by many. It is true that Debian is always out-dated but maybe with lot of help of the community, we can make Debian better, even. |
Is the Debian method that hard?:
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frenchn00b why do you even bother to run Debian? Almost every post you make about Debian is nothing but complaints about how bad it is.
Every one of your complaints could be solved with a simple Google search. And by actually reading the documentation that is available. If you do not like it use BSD or some other Linux distro. Debian works and it works very well. If it didn't there wouldn't be dozens and dozens of Debian based distros. |
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Debian usb install: well It doesnt work. It says that the /cdrom is missing. Well. I try again ... ok. Let's give a try if it has been fixed since few months ago... I let you know about it very soon It has been known as a reported bug (google search). (maybe some happy gilmore) |
yeap ... still debian pendrive buggy.
here are teh results: Quote:
So, Debian not buggy? I got: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/te...ia/boot.img.gz and with this one: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/...86-netinst.iso :( :( hence an image for pendrive for Debian would be great. |
Regarding the above files, you got the boot.img from testing and the netinstall from stable.
Maybe that is a reason for not working. I know there is no netinstall for testing, but you can try the business card iso. |
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http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/sq...86-netinst.iso Install Debian Linux from USB boot memory stick - http://www.linuxconfig.org/install-d...t-memory-stick 4.3.*Preparing Files for USB Memory Stick Booting - http://www.debian.org/releases/testi...h04s03.html.en |
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I strictly followed this how to and it works fine. I used the wget and url as indicated above I boot the pendrive and the pc says : MBR FA: and hangs ... pfff :( |
I tried now the flexible way for installing debian:
red screen and got inconsistency detect by ld.so : rtld.c : 1192 : dl that's not difficult to install debian, sure ?? |
another technique
I took the ISO of debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso mount as loop to /mnt/debian-testing-i386-iso and did mkdosfs /dev/sda1 Code:
cp -a /mnt/debian-testing-i386-iso/* /media/pendriveput syslinux copied the http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dist...edia/initrd.gz and vmlinuz and now the usb bootable starts with the question Code:
BOOT:Code:
07:/media/pendrive# ls -ltra |
If you prefer a Windows/Ubuntu like tool:
http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ I never understood its purpose before reading your post (the trooper's howto should just work and doesn't require any extra software). |
Just install nFlux Squeeze squeeze/sid edition frenchnoob and remaster it into what you want
put it on usb if syslinux already installed or use Unetbootin http://multidistro.com/ |
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PS: Your image seems to have non-debian software. How is that useful for installing debian? |
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thanks ! ok I am donwloading the iso, would you know how I can put it on a pendrive bootable? I would put the boot.img.gz and copy this iso to the pendrive ... but well,,.. i wait now for the 700mb donwload.. http://multidistro.com/distros/tmp/5...ueeze-i686.iso |
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Unless linus72 has a reason for suggesting his image over the original one he's just spamming for his own benefit. |
spamming?
LOL my nFlux is almost the only live squeeze based distro out there save for PureOS... and it just works |
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Just explain why your live image (including non-debian modifications) would make a better choice for installing debian ... That's all the OP asked for. |
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I don't use CD/DVD either and do this on a daily base. If you don't like cli tools, try Unetbootin: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ PS: An installation cd is a live cd as well (with less auto-crap). |
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I've tried the netinstall too and never got it to work. and I'm not puttin a 100mb or less img on cd I dont ever burn cd's anymore unless I have to Mines not better, etc just maybe easier is all even the netbootcd I put in all my stuff cant seem to install squeeze right it ends up installing lenny, no matter what you pick... |
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http://live.debian.net/cdimage/squeeze-builds/ So, without much thinking, there are a few to be found. |
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frenchnoob
Please check out my nFlux Debian for cd/usb (squeeze) fluxbox http://multidistro.com/downloads/nflux.html or PureOS/PureOS light also squeeze xfce4 or kde http://pureos.org/index.php?lang=english they are the only squeeze livecd/usb that I know of and there awesome! |
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Debian installs just fine from usb. Just because you can't seem to follow the install directions and get it to work doesn't mean it doesn't work. It also installs easily to usb or to a sdhc. |
Frenchnoob,
Just for kicks i decided to try the 'Debian' method for installing to usb,and yes it works. I used the following images: http://www.us.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ I used the 'Alpha1' testing release for amd64 business card iso and the corresponding boot.img.gz. I then used the 'expert' text-based installer. Make sure the installer is using the iso image on your usb stick and you'll be good to go. And be patient with the installer,it appears a little slower than installing from a cd/dvd. Edit: If you run into problems with the Testing install,use the Lenny images from here: http://www.uk.debian.org/releases/st...ian-installer/ Install Lenny then upgrade to Squeeze/Testing. |
linus72 wrote:
"I've tried the netinstall too and never got it to work." My <ahem!> reply: Very strange, indeed, linus....I have Debian 5.04 on this very machine, and it installed without the slightest hitch. Go figure. Perhaps an issue with the machines you use? In fact, I've had NO issues with Debian at all, including the package installer & updates. I guess we just live on very different machines. By the way....since I use Puppy 4.20, Debian 5.04, Slackware 12.2, & DesktopBSD 1.7 here, I can't resist mentioning the confusion I get when I see the words "lenny" & "squeeze" in place of a version number. Am I on the wrong planet, or just about 15 years out of date? ;-) |
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If yes: Why is the thread still going on? If no: Use the Debian method, which many people get to work. or Install BSD and then tell us about it. If i want a distro on USB (either live or installed) i put it on USB. Not sure what the distro may offer to make it better. Of course craig is right. It's obvious. Think before you write. |
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well I would be sincerely with an image, simply with, if it is successfully working : Code:
dd if=/dev/sda of=image_working_debian_testing.imgand :( Ubuntu, I do believe, has more power nowadays, and is really very active on development, visibly. Quote:
Well I try the freebsd_pendrive.img, it boots fine, but hangs on the hardware recognization on my compaq presario 1685. I am doomed man |
Mhhh...You said you followed strictly the method linked to by craigevil:
http://www.linuxconfig.org/install-d...t-memory-stick and then it hangs. But you did type <a> enter and then <1> enter, did you? I did never do that, as i don't have to, and it worked here too. It took me a few reboots, i am tired and made some errors. All in all it took me 15 to 20 minutes to create the USB-install media. Make sure you use the correct syntax (the commands are a bit uncommon, at least for me). ---- ---- ---- ---- If you got a network at home (or somewhere you can hook your netbook (or whatever it is)) you could rsync an existing install over ssh on the netbook (or whatever). No big deal. rsync it over ssh, chroot into it, install grub and edit some files, done. ---- ---- ---- ---- you might also put a debian-live-cd on a stick, add the mint-debian-installer, boot the stick,run the mint-debian-installer, done. I am not in the mood to explain it in detail, or to search for the links, because i don't know what you want to do exactly (you got a network or you ain't got one, whats going on with linus72-CD/USB, etc). If you got questions about those two further options let me know and i will add the info (as far as i am able to). The Debian-from-USB stuff is explained in the links already given. I used the how-to given by craigevil. Quote:
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it says a bug: processor not compatible :( thats bug power again If you do: - linuxpendrive and use the iso grub to load debian install cdrom iso, it says /cdrom not found - if you try the debian zcat boot.img.gz then you get up in almost same error : /cdrom not found and forget to put an external hdd because the debian installaer has loaded no modules into memory , so forget : Code:
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Might be an idea / worth a try.
I am able to send big files. I would need to re-create the stick, cause as i don't needed it i think i deleted its content again. I'm not sure if i am in the mood for it tomorrow. I need your email-address via pm (or just a fake-one-time-address). I would send it within this week. I can see no much use for squeeze (cause if its lenny you simply install it and upgrade...). |
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I booted netboocd and chose Squeeze CLI (No X, desktop, etc) for some reason it installed lenny CLI so, I commented out the lenny repos, added squeeze repos and then did aptitude safe-upgrade rebooted and did upgrade again thats how nflux debian squeeze was born:) |
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Oh...well... a miracle.
A good one for all of you (the ones who say it does work and the one who say it doesn't). I recreated the stick, main trouble was finding the netinst.iso, again craigevil's link and now take that: The installation went through within the blink of an eye (less than 5 minutes), no tasksel no nothing. I think: "huh?". I reboot and what do i see: Crunchbang. If someone is able to clear that up i am all ears. NO, i didn't put a Crunchbang-iso on the stick. I once tried to add a Crunchbang-iso, saved on the hard-disk, to the grub.cfg menu. Therefor there are commented entries in grub.cfg and in 40-default. At that time i had a iso under /boot, but its long deleted from there. So, anyone might know what happened? I think this is outstanding funny. ------------------------------------ @freenchnoob: I got your email. As you can see i am working on it. The stick seems to be ready, and as you ain't got no crunchbang it should work in your case. I will run some further tests and email it to you. Once you got my mail you will need to download it within a week. Take care not to delete it as spam (i got a different name). As i am paranoid i will sent it from two email-accounts and i wil send a dd-version and a tar version. If the dd-version doesn't work you untar the other version and do a simple "cp". I think you will still need to run 'install-mbr /dev/sdXXX. First of all i need to find out where the crunchbang is coming from, remove it and try if the netinst-iso works too. If you say that looks to confused for you let me know. ------------------------------------- If this post was too confused for anyone to find out what i am talking about i have to re-write it. I *am* confused. |
Just that no one will tell me i got crunchbang on the stick:
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Crazy...
I'm now having big problems with nflux squeeze too... anyway; j1alu what about live-magic? create a non-X (or full desktop) squeeze img/iso and then install like that? he could use the remastersys-installer to install it Code:
lh config -d squeeze -p standard -a i386Code:
lh_config -d squeeze -p standard -a i386 |
What shall i say. I looks like you have been right.
While the crunchbang-iso is getting found easily, wherever it might be stored, the debian-netinst-iso ain't getting found. The iso is sane (i did installations in Vbox with it). The long story: I ran the usb-stick again: same result: crunchbang-installation. I deleted crunchbang-iso on /dev/sda5 and an the usb-stick again: same result: crunchbang iso. I mounted all my partitions and deleted all crunchbang-iso's. I ran the installer from iso again: no valid iso found. I went for a long-search, i used expert mode, whatever. No result. The long story ends here. I should have finished the installation before i posted. Sorry. I will try a few things now, but ain't got much hope. Like said: Sorry. I think you can understand that if i get past paritioning i assume that the installation will work like usual. |
@Linus:
I think you got some good ideas there. I also think you are more experience with such stuff (usb and that) than i am At the moment i am too confused to think (i think if you create a Debian-live with lh you need to tell it to create an usb-image... not sure yet... but it would be a good choice). In each case i would first of all install Lenny/stable, then upgrade (testing has got problems now and then, stable doesn't, so on that side one would be safe). Lets hear what frenchnoob wants to do next. |
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I agree alos, I just create the default iso image. rename isolinux.cfg to syslinux.cfg and isolinux folder to syslinux folder I think debian is now using iso-hybrid where you can dd it to usb? and yeah, install both stable and squeeze if frenchnoob you dont wanna use deb net install just use netbootcd off usb http://netbootcd.tuxfamily.org/ again, just change isolinux to syslinux, isolinux.cfg to syslinux.cfg |
Keep in mind that my stick easily recognized the crunchbang-iso, wherever it might be stored.
I did all kind of experiments: no luck. I used a business-card-iso on the stick, on the partition. I stored a stock installation-iso (xfce-lxde) on the hard-disk. I ran it several times, expert mode, long searches and what not. Finally i used the Debian-Lenny boot.img and net-installer: again: no luck. After the stick mounts and i hit on <install> in the curses interface i get an error-message which passes by within a second: Quote:
I think i am done with the problem. That sucks. Really. |
That advice did work for me without any further problems:
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.p...=53256#p307103 All other how-tos, docus, tips&tricks didn't (for what reason ever). In short: use unetbootin choose -> Distribution then ->Debian and the branch you want and hit ok Once thats finished copy a installer-iso on the stick (with the filemanager or with a simple cp) and reboot. |
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Do you have an other usb drive to try this? |
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I really tried hard to get it running: no luck (about three days). Here is most of it summed up: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=52856 I am not much in the mood to try it again, thought it bugs me a lot that the "common" way didn't work and i don't know why. Thanks for your offer to help non the less. :) |
hey guys
There's still the simplistic hack way I mentioned earlier step 1) download and install NetBootCD to your usb http://netbootcd.tuxfamily.org/ step 2) go here and prepare a new /etc/apt/sources.list, for your country and squeeze or sid http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ step 3) bootup netbootcd on usb and tell it to install squeeze or sid, etc it will probably install Lenny; which is why you need the debian sources list generator above step4 ) after NetbootCD is finished installing; reboot and from another system or livecd copy the new sources.list for squeeze/sid to your /etc/apt and overwrite old one also making sure you get the gpg keys, etc step 5) do apt-get update after replacing the sources.list step 6) do aptitude -f safe-upgrade after it finishes reboot step 7) complete it by upgrading anything else with another aptitude safe-upgrade thats how I initially made nfluxos squeeze. The other option would be to install nfluxos squeeze and trim it down or up, whatever |
From the link for installing debian from a Pendrive
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.p...e4207&start=15 It seems that it is not simple... Well I am simply wondering... why this issue is not corrected by the debian staff. What are they doing? Why is there such passivity around debian developments? Or are they only 2 guys coding debian only, i.e. one in finland and one in south of I dont know where ? Why issues remains always, and luckily that linus72 and j1alu are there to contribute to Debian planet. It is surprising ... The issue remains since more than one year even. it seems like debian remains empty world on the net, few users, maybe some 10-100 users over the world: http://manana.mccorison.com/images/0...20Cave%204.JPG |
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Who's using Debian? - http://www.debian.org/users/ Seriously it takes 5 count them 5 steps to be able to install from a usb flash drive. I have installed Debian on 2 Asus Eees using the method on the debianeeepc wiki page with no problems. DebianEeePC/HowTo/InstallUsingStandardInstaller - Debian Wiki Quote:
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