emergency.. kde-startup problems..
 

I have just reinstalled debian and chose nothing to install but the debian system..

then I installed kde (& kdm) with apt-get.

but after that, when I typed kdm, nothing happened..
startkde = and the screen just turned black.. like no signal to my screen..

what can I do to make it work ??

did I forget install something ?? and in the wrong order ??

Try xinit startkde, startkde doesn't usually work on its own.

Maybe X isn't configured properly? are the drivers all set up?

you're maybe right..

is it just apt-get install X ???

and yes, I configured all options I could.. monitor - keyboard - mouse - nv as graphicdriver and more..

apt-get install x-window-system

Try simply startx, and see if it works, if it doesn't tell us what the errors where, or what the log says.

Possible help
 

i am also a newbie and i have Debian 3.0 R3 on amy gateway pII 233, 96 meg ram, 40 Gig hd, Ensoniq 1370 sound, X2 Winmodem, STB Velocity AGP 128 Nvidia. I also had problems with installing the KDE and I still have not had it working yet. I was able to get the Debian X-server to run fine and the GNOME works good to, but the KDE halts on trying to exectue. The KDE startup screen seems to hang on the recognizing of the peripherals. The rest of the system seems to be working fine but KDE doesnt like me either. Just thought u might like to know. When i use my video card i can only get it to work right if i use the VESA option. If i use the NV when congifuring the video settings i cant get above 8bit. VESA lets me go to 16bit. The card will support it running windows since i did my research on this. It didnt help that i was using a LCD monitor. had to use the advanced settings to configure the vert and hor settings. you might want to try looking up the specifics on your hardware. here are my links:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...s&vi=tech-data

http://www.aberdeeninc.com/abcatg/DAG801.htm

http://www.envisionmonitor.com/products/en-7100e.asp check the specifications for resolution

Hope this helps
windows guy for 15 yrs.. military

okay.. here is the story..

last time:

I install debian from the beginning and marked desktop invironment to download and works perfectly..



but NOW..:

I install debian with NO further packages... ONLY the packages Debian requires to run..
after that, I installed KDE with KDM..

after that I was told to install some x-server to run kde, then I installed x-window-system and configured all I could..

but when I type startx it says that it doesn't exist.. no such command and so on..

when I type startkde it HANGS and the only thing to do is restart the system.. with the power/reset-switch, cause both keyboard and mouse are stocked.


what can I do ??

no wait..

when I type startkde it says Kxxxxxxxxxxx cant' connect to x-window-system
type kdm and it hangs... tried with gdm too, same happens.

sorry..

In your home directory there will be a .xsession-errors file that might be worth reading. Another log file that may tell why your X refuses to start is /var/log/XFree86.0.log.

thanks.. I'll try read those..

the log says that it can\t find some fonts in the X11/xxxxxx/font

how can I fix this ???

(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a
Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.o": No symbols found
Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_norm.o": No symbols found
Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_xform.o": No symbols found
Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_vertex.o": No symbols found


(WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.


(WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such file or directory)


(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libspeedo.a
Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libspeedo.a:spencode.o": No symbols found


Warning: font renderer for ".pcf" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".pcf.Z" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".pcf.gz" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".snf" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".snf.Z" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".snf.gz" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".bdf" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".bdf.Z" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".bdf.gz" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".pmf" already registered at priority 0




this is the warning lines..

du I have to remove and install somthing again ??

These error messages don't sound very critical to me -- I've had similar messages and still X has worked OK. Are you sure that these are the only error messages? The important lines that tell critical errors are usually near the end of the log files.

To rule out the possibility that it's a kde related error, you might want to install the blackbox window manager (which doesn't take too much disk space). Then create (as normal user) a ~/.xinitrc file with the command: Then try "startx" to see if blackbox loads OK. If not, then you quite likely have an X configuration problem.

Perhaps the easiest way to solve X configuration problems is to install the "xdebconfigurator" package, then start it by typing (as root) "xdebconfigurator" and then type (as root) "dexconf". The "xdebconfigurator" command will use RedHat's autodetection/autoconfiguration tool (called kudzu) to store hardware info to debconf and the "dexconf" command will write the debconf info to /etc/X11/XF86Config-4. This debconf info may be fine-tuned later using (as root) the "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" command. Sometimes it's necessary to run the "dexconf" command again after using "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" to make sure that /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 is actually updated.

The autodetection utility should find correct settings for mouse and graphics card but it's not that reliable in detecting the refresh rates for monitors. It may be necessary to feed the correct monitor refresh rates manually using "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86". These horizontal and vertical refresh rates can be found from your monitor's manual or, if you don't have the manual, you can do a google search for your monitor's name and model plus the keywords "horizontal" and "vertical". For older monitors it may be difficult to find these refresh specs but for newer monitors the technical info is often easily available.

I'll try that.

I've just solved it..

It was because I set the hori/vert-Hz wrong..

I reconfigured xserver-xfree86 and typed the right numbers in it.. and it worked.. ;)

but thanks a lot anyway pal..

how do I close these threads ??


--close thread--

You don't. Its not that type of Forum. :D

okay.. cool cool


ehm.. if I have xfree86 and use that... do I then have to have x-window-server installed ?? can't I just remove it ??
or is it for 2 diff purpose ?

The X Windows Server is XFree86. XFree86 is just a version on the X11 windowing system, X.Org being the other one for Linux. Debian currently uses XFree86 4.3, but will be changing to X.Org in future.

Its kind of like saying, I have Firefox, do I then need to have a web browser installed? or can I just remove it?

remove x-window-system
 

x-window-system is a metapackage, which contains a list of dependencies that will be automatically installed by picking the one metapackage. If the metapackage is installed, removing it does nothing significant because the dependencies are still installed. When you go to upgrade, the metapackage will help keep the group of related packages in sync, though, particularly if a package is "removed" from the group and replaced with another that has better/different functionality.

okay now I know that..

X Problems
 

I had the same problem, but afterward I got errors telling me that my mouse wasn't detected. I ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
But it didn't help at all, so I uninstalled and reinstalled it, among other things. It only happens after an update, though I am not sure which one....
Read the threads but it didn't help that much.

edit: Seems to only happen on on KDE and Gnome, but not on WM such as Icewm and Blackbox.