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Old 10-15-2011, 05:08 AM   #1
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Does Debian have a better updated apt repo?


I am using Debian 6.03, and I feel like some of the debs are out of date. Are there much better updated comprehensive apt repo? I do not want sid.
 
Old 10-15-2011, 05:12 AM   #2
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'Stable' is meant to be just that, not 'cutting edge'. So yeah, there are a lot of 'old' stuff in the stable repos.

You could always try 'testing', its not as cutting edge as 'sid'.
 
Old 10-15-2011, 05:30 AM   #3
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I am using Debian 6.03, and I feel like some of the debs are out of date. Are there much better updated comprehensive apt repo? I do not want sid.
try Wheezy.

but unless you have hardware that needs the newer releases,why change.

Last edited by utanja; 10-15-2011 at 05:32 AM.
 
Old 10-15-2011, 05:39 AM   #4
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you guys have the address for it?
 
Old 10-15-2011, 05:53 AM   #5
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In your sources.list change squeeze for wheezy, or stable for testing. Then apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade and be prepared for a big download.

What debs are "out of date"? You can enable backports by adding "deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main contrib non-free" to your sources.list and then apt-get update.

Last edited by k3lt01; 10-15-2011 at 05:55 AM.
 
Old 10-15-2011, 01:29 PM   #6
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Unwillingly, add sid to my apt sources, and you guys are right. sid is the cutting edge.

I hope sid won't kill my system.

Is sid on kernel 3? I did an apt upgrade, but don't see kernel 3 in the upgrade yet.
 
Old 10-15-2011, 01:32 PM   #7
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Wheezy is on 3 already.

Ironically, sometimes Sid is more stable than Testing because bug fixes are propagated faster.

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Old 10-15-2011, 01:51 PM   #8
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Sid won't kill your system, Ubuntu might.

Sid and testing were on 3.0.4 last time I checked. If your kernel didn't get upgraded then you didn't upgrade properly. Assuming you've added the sid/unstable repo correctly, exit your x session and as root do:

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apt-get update & apt-get dist-upgrade
Then install apt-listbugs so that you are not installing updates completely blindly.

Last edited by cynwulf; 10-15-2011 at 01:52 PM.
 
Old 10-15-2011, 03:12 PM   #9
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thank, I am on kernel 3 now. I hope the new kernel runs okay, keeping the old one for awhile.

I have another question, in ubuntu, there is a package called "ubuntu-restricted-extras" for all multimedia playback. Are there such package in debian sid apt as well?
 
Old 10-15-2011, 03:41 PM   #10
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Code:
uname -a
will tell you the kernel in use.
 
Old 10-15-2011, 03:41 PM   #11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bbmak View Post
thank, I am on kernel 3 now. I hope the new kernel runs okay, keeping the old one for awhile.

I have another question, in ubuntu, there is a package called "ubuntu-restricted-extras" for all multimedia playback. Are there such package in debian sid apt as well?
Nope.

Make sure you have contrib non-free

Flash apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
Java apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
Openjdk apt-get install openjdk-7-jre

Or install Synaptic and find what you need.

You can also use the exoodles script on my blog here at LQ.org
Code:
Exoodles - Multimedia Installer - Version: 3.9.35 Date: 2011-05-29
------------------------------------------------------------------                                                           
The following are the available options for package installs. Please note that each
main application will also get all required codecs and libs added automatically,                                             
so there's no need to manually install the specific codecs unless you want to.                                               
                                                                                                                             
Exoodles believes that your Debian distribution level is: unstable                                                           
and will install packages using the package manager: apt-get                                                                 
                                                                                                                             
You can return to this main menu to pick from another group to install                                                       
more packages, then to exit, just hit the quit number and the script will exit.                                              
                                                                                                                             
There are 3 main types of programs, which will require libraries and packages from the                                       
following desktops, or none, in the case of CLI tools. The amount of libraries required                                      
varies application to application, but you will see what will be added for each package                                      
and can decide whether to install it all or not.                                                                             
QT/KDE; GTK/Gnome; CLI (command line tools). The script will note which applies.                                             
                                                                                                                             
Check each subsection for complete package list.                                                                             
See exoodles -h for advanced setup help options for some applications.                                                       
------------------------------------------------------------------                                                           
1 - browsers-internet google chrome, opera, opera beta, java, flash, skype,
    acroread mozilla plugin, mplayer mozilla plugin, vlc mozilla plugin.                                                     
                                                                                                                             
2 - codecs-plugins libdvdcss, ffmpeg, flac, gstreamer-plugins, lame, vorbis-tools, w32codecs                                 
3 - editing-authoring brasero, k3b, k9copy, lxdvdrip, mencoder, qdvdauthor, xdvdshrink                                       
4 - media-players-audio aqualung, amarok, audacious, banshee, gmusicbrowser,                                                 
    quod-libet, streamtuner                                                                                                  
5 - media-players-video mplayer, kaffeine, vlc, xine                                                                         
6 - miscellaneous-media abcde, acroread, audacity, evince-gtk, Java, streamripper                                            
                                                                                                                             
7 - quit Exit script.                                                                                                        
------------------------------------------------------------------                                                           
Please type the appropriate number and hit enter.
------------------------------------------------------------------
1) browsers-internet    4) media-players-audio  7) quit
2) codecs-plugins       5) media-players-video
3) editing-authoring    6) miscellaneous-media
 
Old 10-15-2011, 04:00 PM   #12
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Nope.

Make sure you have contrib non-free

Flash apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
Java apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
Openjdk apt-get install openjdk-7-jre

Or install Synaptic and find what you need.

You can also use the exoodles script on my blog here at LQ.org
Code:
Exoodles - Multimedia Installer - Version: 3.9.35 Date: 2011-05-29
------------------------------------------------------------------                                                           
The following are the available options for package installs. Please note that each
main application will also get all required codecs and libs added automatically,                                             
so there's no need to manually install the specific codecs unless you want to.                                               
                                                                                                                             
Exoodles believes that your Debian distribution level is: unstable                                                           
and will install packages using the package manager: apt-get                                                                 
                                                                                                                             
You can return to this main menu to pick from another group to install                                                       
more packages, then to exit, just hit the quit number and the script will exit.                                              
                                                                                                                             
There are 3 main types of programs, which will require libraries and packages from the                                       
following desktops, or none, in the case of CLI tools. The amount of libraries required                                      
varies application to application, but you will see what will be added for each package                                      
and can decide whether to install it all or not.                                                                             
QT/KDE; GTK/Gnome; CLI (command line tools). The script will note which applies.                                             
                                                                                                                             
Check each subsection for complete package list.                                                                             
See exoodles -h for advanced setup help options for some applications.                                                       
------------------------------------------------------------------                                                           
1 - browsers-internet google chrome, opera, opera beta, java, flash, skype,
    acroread mozilla plugin, mplayer mozilla plugin, vlc mozilla plugin.                                                     
                                                                                                                             
2 - codecs-plugins libdvdcss, ffmpeg, flac, gstreamer-plugins, lame, vorbis-tools, w32codecs                                 
3 - editing-authoring brasero, k3b, k9copy, lxdvdrip, mencoder, qdvdauthor, xdvdshrink                                       
4 - media-players-audio aqualung, amarok, audacious, banshee, gmusicbrowser,                                                 
    quod-libet, streamtuner                                                                                                  
5 - media-players-video mplayer, kaffeine, vlc, xine                                                                         
6 - miscellaneous-media abcde, acroread, audacity, evince-gtk, Java, streamripper                                            
                                                                                                                             
7 - quit Exit script.                                                                                                        
------------------------------------------------------------------                                                           
Please type the appropriate number and hit enter.
------------------------------------------------------------------
1) browsers-internet    4) media-players-audio  7) quit
2) codecs-plugins       5) media-players-video
3) editing-authoring    6) miscellaneous-media
Isn't okay to do manual install with ubuntu-restricted-extras in debian?
 
Old 10-16-2011, 06:19 AM   #13
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No - if you want 'buntu, install it.

craigevil's post above contains all the info you need.
 
Old 10-16-2011, 10:06 AM   #14
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Quote:
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Isn't okay to do manual install with ubuntu-restricted-extras in debian?
Nope, and it wont work anyway.

It might be possible to install it somehow, but that would take more hacking around than getting things done 'the debian way'.

@ caravel- +1, and no insult to cragevil (I'm willing to bet he has forgotten more about debian than I know, LOL) but there is one thing that adding non-free/contrib to the debian repos wont help with- DVD playback. Yeah, I know, there is the exoodles script that craigevil posted, btu that also brings in stuff that some people wouldnt want.

'How to' link for DVD playback and some codec support without the exoodles script-

http://wiki.debian.org/MultimediaCodecs
 
Old 10-16-2011, 10:23 PM   #15
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libdvdread4 - library for reading DVDs is in the normal debian repos.

libdvdcss2 - Simple foundation for reading DVDs - runtime libraries
You would need to either use the debian-multimedia.org repo or the vlc repo.

It all boils down to how `free' you want your system to be.
 
  


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