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View Poll Results: Which of these do you use for installing/updating/upgrading?
I use Synaptic 17 35.42%
I use aptitude 6 12.50%
I use apt-get 17 35.42%
I prefer downloading and installing manually 1 2.08%
Other (please mention) 7 14.58%
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Old 05-28-2005, 11:25 PM   #1
vharishankar
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Do you use Synaptic?


I am just curious as to how many people prefer to use the GUI synaptic as opposed to the terminal apt-get for install/uninstalling programs.

I personally prefer synaptic because it's so much easier to browse and search for packages and I use synaptic for most purposes (upgrade/update/install).

So do you use synaptic as an alternative to apt-get?
 
Old 05-29-2005, 12:05 AM   #2
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Aptitude for me. I used synaptic about two years ago when I first installed Debian (via Morphix) -- it used to crash often and package searches took ages to perform. I've recently used synaptic again in Ubuntu and it seems to be now slicker than I remembered. But in the meanwhile I've gotten used to aptitude and I'm happy with it.

Some good things in aptitude:
-- I can use aptitude from the console, without starting X session, or I can use it from a terminal window during X session
-- aptitude is really fast (even on low-resource computers)
-- before executing installs/upgrades/removals aptitude shows a screen about all the planned changes and in this screen it's really easy to manipulate which actions I want aptitude to perform and which not; also freezing packages to their current version is easy, just like it is to view which packages I have previously marked to be frozen
-- in aptitude I can view any package's change log by highlighting the package and pressing "C"
-- in aptitude it's easy to check depends/recommends/suggests for packages: highlight a package and press Enter (return to previous screen with "q")
-- aptitude writes a log about all performed actions to /var/log/aptitude

EDIT:
I almost forgot: you can play the minesweeper game in aptitude.

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Old 05-29-2005, 12:10 AM   #3
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With my short time of Debian I actually preferred to use dselect (is this outdated now?). It was simple, and, with my Slack roots, I was much more at home.

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Old 05-29-2005, 01:58 AM   #4
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I had to select other because I use them both. apt-get if I know what I need and synaptic if I need to cache-search, or if I'm just "shopping".
 
Old 05-29-2005, 02:21 AM   #5
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I have used both but prefer using apt alone as once one gets used to it, it's much quicker than going into root and then firing up synaptic.
 
Old 05-29-2005, 02:55 AM   #6
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Both Synaptic and apt. But since Synaptic offers more information on what exactly a package does, it gets my vote.
 
Old 05-29-2005, 03:31 AM   #7
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Aptitude and synaptic are new smart frontends to APT, they are better at resolving dependencies than apt-get. This is why the Sarge installation documentation recommends using aptitude instead of apt-get in upgrading from Woody to Sarge.
http://www.debian.org/releases/testi...ading_aptitude
 
Old 05-29-2005, 03:31 AM   #8
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Aptitude to install, uninstall, freeze packages.
KPackage for info (much more detailed than Synaptic)
 
Old 05-29-2005, 04:19 AM   #9
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Apt-get is the best. No point in messing around with some GUI tool when you can do it easily from the command line.
 
Old 05-29-2005, 06:08 AM   #10
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I tend to browse with Synaptic if I don't know the name of the package I'm looking for but use apt-get on the command line if I know what I'm after.
 
Old 05-29-2005, 06:27 AM   #11
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Quote:
Originally posted by darkleaf
Apt-get is the best. No point in messing around with some GUI tool when you can do it easily from the command line.
i agree, i always try to use apt-get as long as i remember the package name. When searching for a new package like a ftp client or something like that then i'll use aptitude, but aptitude (like synaptic) take a while to load for me, because they have to load the /var/cache/apt/archives folder and that takes me a while (5-10 seconds) because i have a big cache that i access via NFS, because of this slightly irritating thing i always try to use apt-get because it is really fast and enjoyable. Sometimes when searching for a new package i'll use synaptic, because it is alot better at doing random searches to find new programs for a specific use, but the classical interface of aptitude is a friendly face, and i always have to use it via SSH anyways.
 
Old 05-29-2005, 07:28 AM   #12
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Another vote for apt-get
 
Old 05-29-2005, 08:01 AM   #13
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Another one for apt-get, just used to it I guess...
 
Old 05-29-2005, 08:53 AM   #14
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About compiling from source. I don't know how many of you do it, but somehow in Debian it always feels unclean to install programs from any source other than the apt/dpkg system.

I always prefer a particular technique while using an OS and I don't like breaking things by mixing and matching methods.

Would make upgrading and maintenance a problem.

Do any of you compile programs from source in Debian? I always think that that's a better choice in a distro like Slackware which gives full control anyway to the user. I always dislike the half/half business: half manual installation/half automated. Either this way or that: nothing in between.
 
Old 05-29-2005, 09:49 AM   #15
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I compile the kernel, ndiswrapper, alsa and mplayer from source. But I don't upgrade them much if they work. Mplayer doesn't often have updates. For the kernel I should do the security stuff, but I haven't done that yet, newer kernels often break my video card drivers and the newest nvidia drivers don't work with my card. Same for alsa and ndiswrapper, I check once in a while and then upgrade it.

For searching new packages I use apt-cache search.
 
  


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