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Old 10-30-2012, 03:46 AM   #16
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Can this sort of nonsense be kept off the Debian forum? The newbies or Ubuntu forum would be better for this.

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If the OP wants to ask about defraging in the Debian section then so be it.
 
Old 10-30-2012, 03:48 AM   #17
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If the OP wants to ask about defraging in the Debian section then so be it.
I guess what I'm really asking (without actaully "reporting" the post) is if a mod would like to move the thread elsewhere "so that it gets the coverage it deserves" (or whatever the phrase is that they often use).

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Old 10-30-2012, 04:18 AM   #18
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Don't hold your breath.
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Canonical seems to want Ubuntu users to be uneducated and Ubuntu users tend to like being that way.
Sad, but true, on both accounts.

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Can this sort of nonsense be kept off the Debian forum? The newbies or Ubuntu forum would be better for this.
The original question concerns Debian and the reason the question was asked is due to Ubuntu "training". So in my opinion, it was appropriate to post it here.
 
Old 10-30-2012, 05:26 AM   #19
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I guess what I'm really asking (without actaully "reporting" the post) is if a mod would like to move the thread elsewhere "so that it gets the coverage it deserves" (or whatever the phrase is that they often use).

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As Randicus pointed out there is an Ubuntu influence, see the link in the OP. The OP is using Debian and wants to know about an Ubuntu application. I do not see a problem with talking about an Ubuntu mindset considering these things.

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Old 10-30-2012, 08:56 AM   #20
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If you run Ubuntu this would be the tool for you. The average Ubuntu user will never understand that there is a difference between a Linux OS and a MS OS. They NEED to defrag to be comfortable.
+1

I can't find much info on the person(s) or company behind this crapware. It's also closed source proprietary, so not exactly trustworthy...
 
Old 10-30-2012, 06:45 PM   #21
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+1

I can't find much info on the person(s) or company behind this crapware. It's also closed source proprietary, so not exactly trustworthy...
That is an interesting point.

Just spent a few minutes searching and only found the page linked in the OP and another one for "reviews" of the thing.

There were no reviews.
https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applicat...anger/reviews/

I would think that any application posted for sale in the Ubuntu Software Center by 3rd parties would list who they were. Be kind of nice to know before you installed something like that.
 
Old 10-30-2012, 07:15 PM   #22
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The original question concerns Debian and the reason the question was asked is due to Ubuntu "training".
Hmm, perhaps I'm missing something. I don't see any reference to Debian or to "training" in the OP. In fact as far as I can see my post was the first to mention Debian, and yours was the first to mention training.

The OP was asking what people "think about this tool" with a link to some scamware on an Ubuntu site.

I guess I'll just ignore such posts in future.

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Old 10-30-2012, 11:19 PM   #23
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Yes, I was the first to use the word training. That is why I put it in quotations. It refers to what others had mentioned with much longer descriptions. And I believe training is a good adjective in this case.

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Normally, linux file system don't need to be defragment, but what you think about this defrag tool?
Debian is not explicitly mentioned, but this seems to be a Debian user asking for opinions about the usefulness of an Ubuntu package, with the implied meaning of installing said package on a Debian system. Should it be here, in General or Software? Personally, I do not see a problem with asking the question in the Debian section, but it is debatable of course. As we can clearly see.
 
Old 11-02-2012, 09:47 AM   #24
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Can this sort of nonsense be kept off the Debian forum? The newbies or Ubuntu forum would be better for this.

Evo2.
Since there is an Ubuntu forum both at Ubuntu and one for that distro here, why are there so many Ubuntu users clogging and hogging up valuable space and time in the Debian Forum...?
 
Old 11-02-2012, 09:51 AM   #25
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Why are there so many people discussing if this should be in the Ubuntu or Debian sub-forum, when the topic clearly is the usefulness of a software for defragging ext4?
 
Old 11-04-2012, 02:16 AM   #26
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I encourage Ubuntu users to use Debian documentation and resources, because that's the only way they'll find out that Ubuntu IS Debian. I even saw a post in part asking when Ubuntu was going to drop the Debian branch, because most people just use Ubuntu. Canonical doesn't want people to know Ubuntu is a Debian fork. Go over to wikipedia and try to explain it. You'll get a response from a Canonical propeller-beanie telling you you're evil. But arrogance on the part of Debian will make Ubuntu an ill-behaved child. I honestly can't believe the Ubuntu forums. Did anyone over there ever hear of doing productive work, or are they all ADHD sufferers?
 
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But arrogance on the part of Debian will make Ubuntu an ill-behaved child.
Whether arrogant, polite or ingratiating, the attitude of Debian users will have no effect on the "Canonical propeller-beanies," as you call them. Besides, since Ubuntu is living off the work of Debian, the onus is not on Debian users to please Ubuntu users.The more prudent course of action is to ignore the boisterous fanboys and only interact with the intelligent members of the Ubuntu fold.
 
Old 11-04-2012, 09:35 AM   #28
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Whether arrogant, polite or ingratiating, the attitude of Debian users will have no effect on the "Canonical propeller-beanies," as you call them. Besides, since Ubuntu is living off the work of Debian, the onus is not on Debian users to please Ubuntu users.The more prudent course of action is to ignore the boisterous fanboys and only interact with the intelligent members of the Ubuntu fold.
All 352 of them.
 
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OK, I have to be more clear on that. This thread's original topic is a tool for defragmenting ext4 and how useful/necessary it is.
This thread's topic is neither the relationship between Ubuntu and Debian nor the number of fanboys for each distribution.
Please stay on-topic and don't turn this into a Debian vs. Ubuntu flamewar. Remember the rules:
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:29 PM   #30
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OK, I have to be more clear on that. This thread's original topic is a tool for defragmenting ext4 and how useful/necessary it is.
This thread's topic is neither the relationship between Ubuntu and Debian nor the number of fanboys for each distribution.
Please stay on-topic and don't turn this into a Debian vs. Ubuntu flamewar. Remember the rules:
Sorry.

Will try and be a good boy.
 
  


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