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Old 08-29-2003, 06:53 AM   #16
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This is where the difficulty starts. I have looked at the link, but have no way of downloading it to my deb install yet because one of the thing that it seems to be doing, according to the paperwork that I have printed off from the debian site is seeing my network card. Hence I can't configure that, or anything else.

Any ideas

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Old 08-29-2003, 07:08 AM   #17
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What sort of network card do you have? That's the first thing you need to know as it'll dictate what module you need to load in order to get at least the card working.
 
Old 08-29-2003, 09:58 AM   #18
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a netgear FA311 fast ethernet adapter

That's all I can get - and that's from windows

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Old 08-29-2003, 11:39 AM   #19
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Well, the latest update is that I did some more digging around and thought about what you said earlier LSD, and did the re-install of the base system (again), and found the bit about hostnames and networks, looked for the network device support and checked out the list.

Nothing for netgear FA311, but I recalled from when I fitted the network card that windows wanted to call it a "natsemi" something, so I opted for that and then just used the usual IP's for the rest, and it appears that I have managed to configure the network, as I got the updates from the security.debian.whatever site and I tried a PING command and got a response (the first site that came to mind was LQ, but I had to shut the system down as I couldn't work out how to stop it).

I tried the startx command again, but still got the

Fatal Server Error
No Screens found

and the

X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown)

So any ideas would be welcome

regards

John
 
Old 08-29-2003, 11:48 AM   #20
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OK, according to a quick google search I just did, the correct module for the FA311 is natsemi.o. To set the LAN adaptor up, first create a file in /etc/modutils called eth0 with the following contents:

Code:
alias eth0 natsemi
after you created and saved the file, type update-modules (all of this should done as root, btw). This will copy the contents of your eth0 file into modules.conf. The next thing you have to do is load the module by typing modprobe natsemi. Assuming that last step completed without any errors we can now progress onto the important bit, giving your shiny new eth0 LAN device some settings. To do this, you have to open up the file /etc/network/interfaces and add a section that looks like this:

Code:
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet static
        address 192.168.0.4
        netmask 255.255.255.0
        network 192.168.0.0
        broadcast 192.168.0.255
        gateway 192.168.0.1
but of course changing the values to those required for your particular setup. Once you've done that and saved the file you should be able to run ifconfig eth0 and get an output like this:

Code:
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
          inet addr:192.168.0.4  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:85631 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:3
          TX packets:46434 errors:1138 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:2262
          collisions:19431 txqueuelen:100
          RX bytes:50893891 (48.5 MiB)  TX bytes:5013960 (4.7 MiB)
          Interrupt:5 Base address:0x280
At this point, the LAN interface should be working, to test that try pinging a site either on your local network or the internet, if you get packets returning, that's a good sign everythign working properly.

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Old 08-29-2003, 11:50 AM   #21
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Oh and to stop a ping (and almost anything else in Linux) you hold down the control key and press C

edit: Also with respect to your X problem, did you try going back and grabbing the nVidia drivers now that you have the network working or did you just try setting up X with a basic nv driver?

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Old 08-29-2003, 02:15 PM   #22
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The network seems ok (especially as I now know how to stop the ping command - thanks for that )

As far at sorting the nvidia driver is concerned, no I haven't managed to work out how I will be able to get that yet i.e. no X = no browser, well under the debian anyway - still got the mandrake - but how to get the driver from one system to the other is a bit of dark magic.

Unless you know if it's possible to get a more up to date version via apt-get? Not that I know how to do that, but I thought of it as I started typing this.

regards

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Old 08-29-2003, 09:58 PM   #23
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It's fairly easy to transfer the file from your mandrake partition to your debian once, just mount the mandrake partition in Debian and copy the file over (or even execute it from the Mandrak side, it shouldn't matter either way).

Another way is, under Debian, to type the following command:

Code:
wget http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-4496/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4496-pkg2.run
That'll download the file into the current directory. Once it's downloaded type:

Code:
sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4496-pkg2.run
to install the driver and then making the required XF86Config file edits I mentioned above.

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Old 08-30-2003, 12:44 AM   #24
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As far at sorting the nvidia driver is concerned, no I haven't managed to work out how I will be able to get that yet i.e. no X = no browser, well under the debian anyway

Nope. :) See lynx -- the console-based web browser.

Thanks for the nice instructions LSD -- though, and I'm still a newb here, I'd thought that the "Debian way" was to use modconf for those first few steps.
 
Old 08-30-2003, 02:29 AM   #25
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Quote:
Originally posted by johnMG
As far at sorting the nvidia driver is concerned, no I haven't managed to work out how I will be able to get that yet i.e. no X = no browser, well under the debian anyway

Nope. See lynx -- the console-based web browser.
I checked before making that post and it turns out that neither Lynx or Links don't really like the selection boxes nVidia use on their drivers page so they weren't really an option. Using Lynx to go straight to the driver page, http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_d..._ia32_1.0-4496, does however but I didn't think to mention that at the time

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Thanks for the nice instructions LSD -- though, and I'm still a newb here, I'd thought that the "Debian way" was to use modconf for those first few steps.
I didn't know if Debian had any tools to automate those steps so I gave the most basic explanation I could by having a poke around my Debian box here and working out where everything was supposed to go but if there is an easier way to do it then by all means use it.
 
Old 08-30-2003, 02:52 AM   #26
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So, presuming that I have "wget" installed (If not I'll have to try and find it in dselect), then even if I have snags configuring the XF86 (I seem to recall reading something yesterday that said this is the "pain in the arse" stage of a debian install and some strange stuff about using, erm, I think it was "XF86 -configure" as opposed to "XF86config") I should then, by finding the exact page/site for the latest version of X, be able to get it ???


I'm just off to check my mail and then have a go at your idea. I'll post back the result (may take a while as I've got to write the answers longhand from the screen).

Many thanks

Regards

John
 
Old 08-30-2003, 04:31 AM   #27
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Well, that's those idea's out of the window.

All I get as a # reply is

"wget command not found".

I have tried to use "dselect" to get it and that says it's installed. so ???

It seems that lynx is installed. so I have tried that, and just can't make it get the nvidia driver - it seems to give me a "404".

One of the guys from my LUG said about making sure that I have the correct "X server" and sent me some links to update my /etc/apt/sources.list, but I'll be buggered if I can sus out how to modify the file.

So I'll try the re-install "old cherry" and see what happens then.

regards

John
 
Old 08-30-2003, 05:14 AM   #28
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apt-get install wget will install wget.

You don't need to worry about X servers as you're running XFree86 4.x you just need to make sure it's set up to use the correct nVidia driver. You don't need the drivers from the nVidia site for this just yet, just run xf86config and when prompted, select the "nv" driver, it's number 18 in the list.
 
Old 08-30-2003, 08:31 AM   #29
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OK, I'll give that a try.

And will post back.

many thanks for you patience LSD

regards

John
 
Old 08-30-2003, 06:14 PM   #30
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Whoopedy doo dah!!

So whats happened? Have I been out and bought a box of debian experience and sprinkled it on my breakfast cereal ?

No.

Have I started wearing my underpants on the outside of my trousers, my socks over my shoes, with a Blue T-shirt bearing a large red D, with a red "tea towel" tucked into the neck of above T-shirt ?

No

I received an offer, via my LUG mailing list from one of the chaps who just happens to be an IT professional, as has something to do with the developers list - though I didn't manage to find out what.

But as the offer was bandwidth for expetise - afterall, "fair exchange is no robbery".

So, he has managed to get my "X" working, got my graphics card working, got the woody working only to find out that because of some "techie shit", it would be better to for me to upgrade the distro to "Sarge" - to do with graphics support and stuff like that that I didn't really understand, then sorted the X, my graphics card and distro (again) and given me what I could describe as a bit of a "Masterclass" in command line operating.

All for a bit of download bandwidth (and I threw a free plate of dinner), aside from the above, he plugged in a switch, and the various cables, and ran another 2 machines (server unit and a laptop) downloading, and managing the other two machines, as well as sorting my stuff.

For some of you out there, this maybe a "doddle", but for me, the magic never ceases to amaze.

All I've got to do is to "apt-get" all the other app's and stuff (oh, and did I mention that he sorted my booting from the hard drive about a dozen times as well ) and I'll have a fully operational "Triple boot" system.

HAHA, yippeeeeeeee etc etc etc

regards

John
 
  


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