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02-03-2005, 06:53 AM
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Registered: Feb 2005
Location: Germany
Distribution: Debian Etch, kernel 2.6.18
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Debian usefull without Internet?
Hi everyone,
at this moment I use RH9 but I hate it!
I want to install Debian Sarge, but I donīt have internet-connection at home.
Do you think itīs usefull to install debian anyway?
Or do I need internet for debian?
Greetz
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02-03-2005, 08:13 AM
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Registered: Sep 2004
Location: Savannah, GA
Distribution: Ubuntu, Gentoo, Mythbuntu, ClarkConnect
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what do you want linux for?
because, um, if you want to browse the internet, you couldn't -- seeing as you have none....
but anyways, sure it's useful. I do some development, and nothing's better than a linux environment for that. but if your non-internet work is mostly gameing, then you might want to stick with MS to avoid the hassle.
Of course Linux is worth more than just a dev environment, but to me, those are the two main selling points. MS kicks linux's butt in gameing, and linux whups MS in development... i think the rest of everything is pretty much moot.
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02-03-2005, 08:35 AM
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Registered: Feb 2005
Location: Germany
Distribution: Debian Etch, kernel 2.6.18
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I play sometimes, ok.. (rarely)
but my first priority is to learn Linux.
Iīm relative new to Linux. I love console.
I would be happy if I install debian and everything works, but I donīt think so.
And my biggest problem is that I donīt have internet.
Whatīs about apt?
When I want to install something with apt and I need an additional lib, apt cannot access to the I-net and download the required files.. ?
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02-03-2005, 08:43 AM
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Registered: Sep 2004
Location: Savannah, GA
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well then, debian might be a good fit for you; for light gameing, linux has alternatives for you... in truth, i think of tweaking linux as a game, anyways...
onto apt:
where are you going to be getting things to install in the first place? get your missing dependencies along with whatever you want...
yes, apt is a very useful tool, and one of the biggest selling points for debian, but that is not the only option. the underlying fact is that debian has a package system, and if you know what your system has, and what a new package's dependencies are, you should be able to work it out...
Last edited by secesh; 02-03-2005 at 08:44 AM.
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02-03-2005, 08:54 AM
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Registered: Feb 2005
Location: Germany
Distribution: Debian Etch, kernel 2.6.18
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I think my problem will be that I donīt know what for packages I have to use to do something.
How I said I am relative new to Linux.
Ok, installation is normally a piece of cake.
But with RH9 f.e. I was not able to get my sound to work.
I installed all packages I needed but it didnīt work.
I have to learn much I hope I get it.
When I know much more about Linux, I want to develop new things...because with MS I learned a little C and C++ by myself. I love programming.
I think I try to install debian sarge later :-)
Or do you think for the beginning itīs better to install SUSE 9.2? (to learn Linux)
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02-03-2005, 08:58 AM
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honestly, i think debian would be better for learning linux.
people who just want to run linux and pretend it's MS are good with RH/FC, suse, whatever... but those often teach people propritary GUI solutions for maintaining their systems, rather than learning anything about linux.
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02-03-2005, 08:59 AM
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Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA
Distribution: Kubuntu
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I have an older box @ home that I setup w/ debian. I have a dial up connection to the internet, I know still So I asked permission to borrow some bandwidth after work hours to update/install it. Now it sets headless in a corner and I use it for doing some webpage develpment and to work on some side projects. I also have used it to learn more and more about Linux. So the short answer is yes, you don't need a dedicated internet connection to use debian. Just use it to learn
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02-03-2005, 09:01 AM
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Registered: Feb 2005
Location: Germany
Distribution: Debian Etch, kernel 2.6.18
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Youīre right.
OK, one debian user more :-)
Thanks for your help...
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02-05-2005, 04:47 AM
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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: Tartu, Århus,Nürnberg, Europe
Distribution: Debian, Ubuntu, Puppy
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My opinion is that internet is most important for help. Installation can easily done by cd-s, apt supports cd-s too. But quite often I find solution to my problems by either googling or asking in forums and mailing lists, and this a slow process without net.
Above that, I don't think there are any difference which distro (or which OS) you are using.
Best,
Ott
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02-05-2005, 08:20 AM
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Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Kinross, Western Australia
Distribution: Kubuntu 5.04 (Hoary)
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At the end of the day, debian is great to learn linux with because unlike fedora and RH9, it doesnt HIDE LINUX FROM YOU. :P What's more if you've got dialup and want to install or update packages, just leave the computer on overnight to download the stuff. Assuming you have no download limit!
Now, where'd those ATi libraries go.... :P
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02-05-2005, 10:54 AM
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Oxford
Distribution: Slackware, Debian, Fedora, FreeBSD, NetBSD
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if you want to learn linux, debian AND slackware are very good to use
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02-07-2005, 02:34 AM
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Registered: Feb 2005
Location: Germany
Distribution: Debian Etch, kernel 2.6.18
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Hi,
thanks for your replies...
I installed Debian at the weekend and itīs great.
No GUI-installation, very easy...
Thanks.
Greetz
GSX
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