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Dirty_Ink 05-11-2005 01:59 AM

Debian Sarge 15 CD's?
Is the Debian Sarge Install really 15 Cd's?

Angelus 05-11-2005 02:32 AM

Re: Debian Sarge 15 CD's?

Originally posted by Dirty_Ink
Is the Debian Sarge Install really 15 Cd's?
Yeah with all apps.
If you want to use lightweight install use Debian Sarge netinstall cd with basic base files (approx. 120mb if i remember right).

Dirty_Ink 05-11-2005 02:39 AM


Angelus 05-11-2005 02:45 AM


Originally posted by Dirty_Ink
No problem :)

Artik 05-11-2005 04:38 AM

Re: Debian Sarge 15 CD's?

Originally posted by Dirty_Ink
Is the Debian Sarge Install really 15 Cd's?
You don't need all of them.

First time I downloaded 2 ISOs and get quite good amount of SW avialable KDE+Gnome+Office

Last time I've took 5 CDs....
I havn't found something I want to install that wasn't in these CDs (except for some unstable or specific external repos packages I needed - specific some codacs/players). I think I've used 5th CD only ones (for something very specific) and 4th about 2-3 times.

You can picup 4-5 first CDs and you'll get most of usefull SW packages (they are sorted in popularity order). If you have fast internet (at work for example + CD burner) and you can download 4-5 CDs you'll get very good amount of SW - and you will not need to download every little package you need.

However I wouldn't suggest to run.

#apt-get upgrade

Full system update
Because all your CDs will be useless at some point.

One more:

If you don't have fast internet at home you can pic these CD's (or some of them) and you'll have huge amount of SW.

For example when I had not internet due to modem crash I could add some SW without any problem.

And now when I need to add something It takes about 1-2 minutes because I don't need to download anything.
It is much better then to install from internet.

Dirty_Ink 05-11-2005 03:06 PM

I like that, i'll probably end up downloading all 15 then. no Biggie.

Deeze 05-11-2005 06:04 PM

Why would you download 15cd's of an OS that is, as yet, unreleased and in flux? Sarge is not yet at the point where it is considered stable, therefore there will be some updates and changes to it in the coming weeks (many in fact, I've gotten 50+ MB of updates just today, and I updated like, 2 days ago). If you have the connection to download 15cd's at home, you have the connection to run the netinstall (which takes aprox an hour of download time to set up graphical workstation environment). Now if you do not have this connection at home and are meaning to get them either at work, or a friends house, that would be a reasonable thing to do, but if you've broadband, by all means use the netinstall disk. The 15cd's will be obsolete by the time you get them downloaded.

Dirty_Ink 05-11-2005 06:14 PM

I was giong to download them when sarge becomes stable, i just visited their site recently to check howmany cds would be needed to install, but like Artik said, if my connection goes down for any reason, I can still install the software without the internet.

Deeze 05-11-2005 06:18 PM

Ah, that makes a bit more sense to me then :).

Artik 05-12-2005 05:11 AM

You do not really need all 15 :tisk: ... You will not need most of them.

I've downloaded 5 - and it is more then enough, For example Fedora comes with 4 disks only.
Secondly... Sarge is very close to become officially stable so... Even if you'll get packages that are not "the bleeding edge" of the system they are good enough.

If you want to wait for Sarge to become stable... for what? you'll probably allways will use some unstable recent packages for codacs for some multimedia and other tool...

Testing branch is actually quite stable. I dosn't takes recent SW as other distros. For example Ubuntu in its last 5.04 release had taken Gnome 2.10 that was officially released only few weeks before... Could they really test the integration of the Gnome???
It is best to remain with testing brach that is more then stable for home purposes but probably is not enough for critical server applications...
I don't know why users try to make updates all the time... I remember I've did it for Fedora Core III... It had become only less stable...

One more if you download weekly ISO images make sure that you take them form same period. Otherwise you'll have some dependecy problems because of different verisons.

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