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Old 03-02-2005, 06:28 PM   #1
bladepdx
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Debian k7 netinstall


I'm having a bit of a problem with the Debian Sarge netinstall. I got the i386 kernel cd, but what I really need is the k7 kernel, as I'm running on an Athlon XP. Anyone know if/where I can get one? There doesn't seem to be a k7 architecture for the netinstall available on www.debian.org
 
Old 03-02-2005, 06:31 PM   #2
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Use the 'sarge' netinstall and install with it.

After the installation execute
Code:
apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-k7
to get an AMD Athlon/AthlonXP/Duron/Sempron optimized Linux 2.6 kernel installed.
 
Old 03-02-2005, 06:41 PM   #3
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Forgot to mention that I already have an i386 cd, but it's terribly slow. Slow enough that it'd take so long to install that I'd rather stick with Windows. That's why I was wondering if there was a k7 netinstall or some other alternative I could use.
 
Old 03-02-2005, 06:50 PM   #4
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I seriously doubt that the slowness you experience is because of the i386 compiled binaries... For the vast majority of applications there is no end-user noticeable performance difference really whether it is compiled as i386-compatible or K7-with-all-bells-and-whistles.

One possible cause of slow progress is that the harddrive is not in DMA mode. For some hard drive controllers the DMA is disabled by default for various reasons (usually stability reasons). But even with DMA disabled on harddrives it is possible to live thorugh the installation, just select the bare minimum (e.g. don't select to install anything additional) during the installation and then when the install procedure is done, log in, install hdparm (apt-get install hdparm) and take a look at the DMA status (hdparm /dev/yourharddrivedevice). If DMA is disabled, try enabling it with hdparm -d1 /dev/yourharddrivedevice. And then install whatever you want more installed.
 
Old 03-02-2005, 06:56 PM   #5
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1.
http://packages.debian.org/stable/ba...ge-2.4.18-1-k7
http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/s...le&release=all

2. aptitude and '/' and 'k7' and enter

3. more to find: 'n' in aptitude.

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i am using net-floppy-installed debian sid.
Linux debian 2.6.11 #1 Thu Mar 3 09:21:34 XXX 2005 i686 GNU/Linux

Last edited by lmmix; 03-02-2005 at 07:39 PM.
 
Old 03-02-2005, 07:13 PM   #6
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Quote:
Originally posted by lmmix
1.
http://packages.debian.org/stable/ba...ge-2.4.18-1-k7
http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/s...le&release=all

2. aptitude and '/' and 'k7' and enter

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i am using net-floppy-installed debian sid.
Ew. Nothing like the stench of a three-year-old kernel in the night...

As the version of Debian discussed in this thread is testing 'sarge', some more appropriate linkage would have been:
http://packages.debian.org/testing/b...l-image-2.6-k7
http://packages.debian.org/testing/b...age-2.6.8-2-k7
http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/s...ng&release=all
 
Old 03-02-2005, 07:51 PM   #7
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I think you may be on to something with the DMA. I seem to remember something in the boot sequence about DMA something or other. I'll give that a try and get back to you guys,
 
Old 03-02-2005, 08:16 PM   #8
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## try to get familiar kernel compile, after some failure, you probably like it.
## here is some part of my .config

#
# ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support
#
CONFIG_IDE=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=y

#
# Please see Documentation/ide.txt for help/info on IDE drives
#
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_SATA is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_IDE is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK=y
# CONFIG_IDEDISK_MULTI_MODE is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDETAPE is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEFLOPPY is not set
# CONFIG_IDE_TASK_IOCTL is not set

#
# IDE chipset support/bugfixes
#
CONFIG_IDE_GENERIC=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CMD640 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPNP is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPCI=y
CONFIG_IDEPCI_SHARE_IRQ=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_OFFBOARD is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_GENERIC=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_OPTI621 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RZ1000 is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_PCI=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_FORCED is not set
CONFIG_IDEDMA_PCI_AUTO=y
# CONFIG_IDEDMA_ONLYDISK is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_AEC62XX is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_ALI15X3 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_AMD74XX is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_ATIIXP is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CMD64X is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_TRIFLEX is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CY82C693 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CS5520 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CS5530 is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HPT34X=m
# CONFIG_HPT34X_AUTODMA is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HPT366=m
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SC1200 is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PIIX=m
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_NS87415 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PDC202XX_OLD is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PDC202XX_NEW is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SVWKS is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SIIMAGE is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SIS5513 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SLC90E66 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_TRM290 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_VIA82CXXX is not set
# CONFIG_IDE_ARM is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA=y
# CONFIG_IDEDMA_IVB is not set
CONFIG_IDEDMA_AUTO=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD is not set
 
Old 03-02-2005, 08:43 PM   #9
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DMA turns out to be enabled already. Everything seems to work fine if I choose the recovery mode kernel from the GRUB bootmenu, either the 386 or k7 varieties, which is very strange. But both of the regular startups (i386 and k7) are horribly slow, and continue to be slow throughout the use. I'm not talking like 2 minutes slow, I'm talking like half an hour to boot. It seems to go normally until it gets to DHCP configuration, and right after it does that, while initializing MTA and things it slows way down.

No clue what could be causing this problem.
 
Old 03-02-2005, 08:47 PM   #10
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MTA might be improperly configured... does it spit out any error messages?
 
Old 03-02-2005, 09:24 PM   #11
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No error messages, and it's not just MTA. I just specifically remember that being at about the point where it starts to go slow. Not the very first thing to slow down though. I think it's the portmap daemon.
 
Old 03-02-2005, 10:12 PM   #12
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if it not in use, purge it.

i always purge 'cron' 'exim4' 'nfs' 'portmap' when i have to use fresh debian.
aptitude and '/' and 'exim4', more to find 'n'.
all useless daemon is the target for the hole-seeker.

and if it is not server, disable remote root login, see securetty.
 
Old 03-03-2005, 01:20 AM   #13
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I really don't think it has anything to do with those specifically, since throughout the use of the computer (if I even decide to let it sit that long) it remains slow until I reboot either into Windows or recovery mode. It could be that one of those programs is causing the computer to run slow, but Debian has worked fine before this with many more things installed and running.
 
  


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